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From: ebiederm@xmission•com (Eric W. Biederman)
To: David Laight <David.Laight@ACULAB•COM>
Cc: 'Chris Leech' <cleech@redhat•com>,
	"netdev\@vger.kernel.org" <netdev@vger•kernel.org>,
	"containers\@lists.linux-foundation.org"
	<containers@lists•linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/9] use network namespace for iSCSI control interfaces
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2017 13:46:03 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87mv3fo1ok.fsf@xmission.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <687d0196888f4325aebc0989a8e12ced@AcuMS.aculab.com> (David Laight's message of "Tue, 21 Nov 2017 11:26:09 +0000")

David Laight <David.Laight@ACULAB•COM> writes:

> To make matters even more annoying the functions for holding and
> releasing a namespace are GPL_ONLY :-(

I am going to pick on this by itself for a moment without mentioning
anything else, so as hopefully not to derail what otherwise sounds
like a good technical conversation.

So far every time when someone has complained to me about things being
GPL_ONLY and I have looked into it, all I have seen is someone trying
to come up with a way to release derivative works of the kernel without
honoring the terms of the GPLv2.

I read through the US Code a while back to see if I could understand
what is legaly defined as a derivative work, and my impression at the
time was that the FSF is quite conservative in what they consider a
derivative work, and probably the scope is much wider.

So when people start complaining about things being GPLv2 those are the
most annoying bug reports I ever deal with, as almost invariably people
just want to take from the community and don't want to work with every
one else.

It is especially annoying because I have never seen a case where there
is a good justification for a kernel export being anything other than
GPL_ONLY.  That is the kernel's license after all, and if you are using
kernel internal functions the chance that your code is not a derivative
work is about 0.

Eric

  reply	other threads:[~2017-11-21 19:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20171107180156.GD29597@straylight.hirudinean.org>
     [not found] ` <20171107180156.GD29597-r8IHplWLGbA5tHQWs+pTeqPFFGjUI2lm2LY78lusg7I@public.gmane.org>
2017-11-07 22:45   ` [PATCH 0/9] use network namespace for iSCSI control interfaces Chris Leech
2017-11-07 22:45     ` [PATCH 2/9] iscsi: associate endpoints with a host Chris Leech
2017-11-07 22:45     ` [PATCH 3/9] iscsi: sysfs filtering by network namespace Chris Leech
     [not found]     ` <20171107224513.4217-1-cleech-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2017-11-07 22:45       ` [PATCH 1/9] iscsi: create per-net iscsi netlink kernel sockets Chris Leech
2017-11-07 22:45       ` [PATCH 4/9] iscsi: make all iSCSI netlink multicast namespace aware Chris Leech
2017-11-08 10:31       ` [PATCH 0/9] use network namespace for iSCSI control interfaces David Laight
2017-11-15  0:25         ` Chris Leech
2017-11-21 11:26           ` David Laight
2017-11-21 19:46             ` Eric W. Biederman [this message]
     [not found]             ` <687d0196888f4325aebc0989a8e12ced-1XygrNkDbNvwg4NCKwmqgw@public.gmane.org>
2017-11-21 20:20               ` Chris Leech
2017-11-07 22:45     ` [PATCH 5/9] iscsi: set netns for iscsi_tcp hosts Chris Leech
2017-11-07 22:45     ` [PATCH 6/9] iscsi: check net namespace for all iscsi lookups Chris Leech
2017-11-07 22:45     ` [PATCH 7/9] iscsi: convert flashnode devices from bus to class Chris Leech
2017-11-07 22:45     ` [PATCH 8/9] iscsi: rename iscsi_bus_flash_* to iscsi_flash_* Chris Leech
2017-11-07 22:45     ` [PATCH 9/9] iscsi: filter flashnode sysfs by net namespace Chris Leech

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