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From: "Samudrala, Sridhar" <sridhar.samudrala@intel•com>
To: Jiri Pirko <jiri@resnulli•us>, "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat•com>
Cc: stephen@networkplumber•org, davem@davemloft•net,
	netdev@vger•kernel.org,
	virtualization@lists•linux-foundation.org,
	virtio-dev@lists•oasis-open.org, jesse.brandeburg@intel•com,
	alexander.h.duyck@intel•com, kubakici@wp•pl, jasowang@redhat•com,
	loseweigh@gmail•com
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH net-next v6 2/4] net: Introduce generic bypass module
Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2018 15:46:11 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ff0c5ea1-16d4-00a7-9952-9049efa818eb@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180418203206.GC1922@nanopsycho>

On 4/18/2018 1:32 PM, Jiri Pirko wrote:
>>>>>>> You still use "active"/"backup" names which is highly misleading as
>>>>>>> it has completely different meaning that in bond for example.
>>>>>>> I noted that in my previous review already. Please change it.
>>>>>> I guess the issue is with only the 'active'  name. 'backup' should be fine as it also
>>>>>> matches with the BACKUP feature bit we are adding to virtio_net.
>>>>> I think that "backup" is also misleading. Both "active" and "backup"
>>>>> mean a *state* of slaves. This should be named differently.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> With regards to alternate names for 'active', you suggested 'stolen', but i
>>>>>> am not too happy with it.
>>>>>> netvsc uses vf_netdev, are you OK with this? Or another option is 'passthru'
>>>>> No. The netdev could be any netdevice. It does not have to be a "VF".
>>>>> I think "stolen" is quite appropriate since it describes the modus
>>>>> operandi. The bypass master steals some netdevice according to some
>>>>> match.
>>>>>
>>>>> But I don't insist on "stolen". Just sounds right.
>>>> We are adding VIRTIO_NET_F_BACKUP as a new feature bit to enable this feature, So i think
>>>> 'backup' name is consistent.
>>> It perhaps makes sense from the view of virtio device. However, as I
>>> described couple of times, for master/slave device the name "backup" is
>>> highly misleading.
>> virtio is the backup. You are supposed to use another
>> (typically passthrough) device, if that fails use virtio.
>> It does seem appropriate to me. If you like, we can
>> change that to "standby".  Active I don't like either. "main"?
> Sounds much better, yes.

OK. Will change backup to 'standby'.
'main' is fine, what about 'primary'?


>
>
>> In fact would failover be better than bypass?
> Also, much better.

So do we want to change all 'bypass' references to 'failover' including
the filenames.(net/core/failover.c and include/net/failover.h)

<snip>



>
>
>>
>>>> The intent is to restrict the 'active' netdev to be a VF. If there is a way to check that
>>>> a PCI device is a VF in the guest kernel, we could restrict 'active' netdev to be a VF.
>>>>
>>>> Will look for any suggestions in the next day or two. If i don't get any, i will go
>>>> with 'stolen'
>>>>
>>>> <snip>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> +
>>>>> +static struct net_device *bypass_master_get_bymac(u8 *mac,
>>>>> +						  struct bypass_ops **ops)
>>>>> +{
>>>>> +	struct bypass_master *bypass_master;
>>>>> +	struct net_device *bypass_netdev;
>>>>> +
>>>>> +	spin_lock(&bypass_lock);
>>>>> +	list_for_each_entry(bypass_master, &bypass_master_list, list) {
>>>>>>> As I wrote the last time, you don't need this list, spinlock.
>>>>>>> You can do just something like:
>>>>>>>            for_each_net(net) {
>>>>>>>                    for_each_netdev(net, dev) {
>>>>>>> 			if (netif_is_bypass_master(dev)) {
>>>>>> This function returns the upper netdev as well as the ops associated
>>>>>> with that netdev.
>>>>>> bypass_master_list is a list of 'struct bypass_master' that associates
>>>>> Well, can't you have it in netdev priv?
>>>> We cannot do this for 2-netdev model as there is no bypass_netdev created.
>>> Howcome? You have no master? I don't understand..

For 2-netdev model, the master netdev is not a new one created by the bypass module.
It is created by netvsc internally and passed via bypass_master_register()

<snip>



>>>
>>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>>> +	/* Avoid Bonding master dev with same MAC registering as slave dev */
>>>>>>>> +	if ((dev->priv_flags & IFF_BONDING) && (dev->flags & IFF_MASTER))
>>>>>>> Yeah, this is certainly incorrect. One thing is, you should be using the
>>>>>>> helpers netif_is_bond_master().
>>>>>>> But what about the rest? macsec, macvlan, team, bridge, ovs and others?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You need to do it not by blacklisting, but with whitelisting. You need
>>>>>>> to whitelist VF devices. My port flavours patchset might help with this.
>>>>>> May be i can use netdev_has_lower_dev() helper to make sure that the slave
>>>>> I don't see such function in the code.
>>>> It is netdev_has_any_lower_dev(). I need to export it.
>>> Come on, you cannot use that. That would allow bonding without slaves,
>>> but the slaves could be added later on.
>>>
>>> What exactly you are trying to achieve by this?

I think i can remove this check.  In pre-register,
for backup device, i check that its parent matches bypass device &
for vf device, we make sure that it is a pci device.

  reply	other threads:[~2018-04-18 22:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-04-10 18:59 [RFC PATCH net-next v6 0/4] Enable virtio_net to act as a backup for a passthru device Sridhar Samudrala
2018-04-10 18:59 ` [RFC PATCH net-next v6 1/4] virtio_net: Introduce VIRTIO_NET_F_BACKUP feature bit Sridhar Samudrala
2018-04-10 18:59 ` [RFC PATCH net-next v6 2/4] net: Introduce generic bypass module Sridhar Samudrala
2018-04-11 15:51   ` Jiri Pirko
2018-04-11 19:13     ` Samudrala, Sridhar
2018-04-18  9:25       ` Jiri Pirko
2018-04-18 18:43         ` Samudrala, Sridhar
2018-04-18 19:13           ` Jiri Pirko
2018-04-18 19:46             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-04-18 20:32               ` Jiri Pirko
2018-04-18 22:46                 ` Samudrala, Sridhar [this message]
2018-04-19  6:35                   ` Jiri Pirko
2018-04-19  4:08                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-04-19  7:22                   ` Jiri Pirko
2018-04-10 18:59 ` [RFC PATCH net-next v6 3/4] virtio_net: Extend virtio to use VF datapath when available Sridhar Samudrala
2018-04-10 18:59 ` [RFC PATCH net-next v6 4/4] netvsc: refactor notifier/event handling code to use the bypass framework Sridhar Samudrala
2018-04-10 21:26   ` Stephen Hemminger
2018-04-10 22:56     ` Samudrala, Sridhar
2018-04-10 23:28     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-04-10 23:44       ` Siwei Liu
2018-04-10 23:59         ` Stephen Hemminger
2018-04-11  7:50       ` Jiri Pirko
2018-04-11  1:21     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-04-11  7:53     ` Jiri Pirko
2019-02-22  1:14       ` net_failover slave udev renaming (was Re: [RFC PATCH net-next v6 4/4] netvsc: refactor notifier/event handling code to use the bypass framework) Siwei Liu
2019-02-22  1:39         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-02-22  3:33           ` [virtio-dev] " si-wei liu
     [not found]             ` <91d4cbb1-be7a-b53c-6b2a-99bef07e7c53@intel.com>
2019-02-22  7:55               ` si-wei liu
2019-02-22 12:58                 ` Rob Miller
2019-02-22 15:14                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-02-26  0:58                   ` si-wei liu
2019-02-26  1:39                     ` Stephen Hemminger
2019-02-26  2:05                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-02-27  0:49                         ` si-wei liu
2019-02-26  2:08                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-02-27  0:17                       ` si-wei liu
2019-02-27 21:57                         ` Stephen Hemminger
2019-02-27 22:30                           ` si-wei liu
2019-02-27 22:38                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-02-27 23:34                           ` si-wei liu
2019-02-27 23:50                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-02-28  0:00                               ` Liran Alon
2019-02-28  0:03                               ` Stephen Hemminger
2019-02-28  0:38                                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-02-28  0:38                               ` si-wei liu
2019-02-28  0:41                                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-02-28  0:52                                   ` Jakub Kicinski
2019-02-28  1:26                                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-02-28  1:52                                       ` Jakub Kicinski
2019-02-28  4:47                                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-02-28 18:13                                           ` Jakub Kicinski
2019-02-28 19:36                                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-02-28 19:56                                               ` Jakub Kicinski
2019-02-28 20:14                                                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-02-28 23:31                                                   ` Jakub Kicinski
2019-03-01  0:20                                                 ` Siwei Liu
2019-03-01  1:05                                                   ` Jakub Kicinski
2019-03-02  0:30                                                     ` Siwei Liu
2019-02-28  9:32                                   ` si-wei liu
2019-02-28 14:26                                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-03-01  1:30                                       ` si-wei liu
2019-03-01 13:27                                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-03-01 20:55                                           ` si-wei liu

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