From: Benny Amorsen <benny+usenet@amorsen•dk>
To: Dunc <dunc@lemonia•org>
Cc: Kalle Valo <kalle.valo@iki•fi>,
David Miller <davem@davemloft•net>,
kaber@trash•net, netdev@vger•kernel.org,
linux-wireless@vger•kernel.org
Subject: Re: Network QoS support in applications
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 14:24:28 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <m3636nd6k3.fsf@ursa.amorsen.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4B5EF5DF.2070005@lemonia.org> (dunc@lemonia.org's message of "Tue, 26 Jan 2010 14:02:07 +0000")
Dunc <dunc@lemonia•org> writes:
> If applications set the QoS values, the who's to stop someone (for
> example) writing a bittorrent client that marks all packets for the
> highest priority as if they were VoIP or something?
Nothing, but nothing stops them from writing a bittorrent client which
does "optimistic ACK" either. Yet noone seems to bother.
Also, bittorrent marked as EF could easily get hit by a "don't queue
voice packets, just drop instead" policy. Late voice packets are useless
and might as well be dropped, but TCP streams like bittorrent react
badly to packet loss.
All in all there is little incentive for people to game the system.
Should it happen anyway, network administrators have plentiful tools for
fixing it, up to and including ip link set dev whatever down.
/Benny
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-01-27 13:25 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-01-26 8:27 Network QoS support in applications Kalle Valo
[not found] ` <87k4v5nuej.fsf-ySPBbPOLdCfMApvqMRVM/A@public.gmane.org>
2010-01-26 11:30 ` Patrick McHardy
[not found] ` <4B5ED254.7010104-dcUjhNyLwpNeoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org>
2010-01-26 11:51 ` Kalle Valo
[not found] ` <877hr5nkx0.fsf-ySPBbPOLdCfMApvqMRVM/A@public.gmane.org>
2010-01-26 11:59 ` Patrick McHardy
2010-01-26 12:16 ` David Miller
2010-01-26 12:56 ` Kalle Valo
2010-01-26 13:06 ` David Miller
[not found] ` <20100126.050645.184040277.davem-fT/PcQaiUtIeIZ0/mPfg9Q@public.gmane.org>
2010-01-26 13:47 ` Kalle Valo
2010-01-26 14:02 ` Dunc
[not found] ` <4B5EF5DF.2070005-9b9L1Hpe0sBAfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org>
2010-01-26 14:27 ` Kalle Valo
[not found] ` <87iqaplz5a.fsf-ySPBbPOLdCfMApvqMRVM/A@public.gmane.org>
2010-01-26 21:54 ` Edgar E. Iglesias
2010-01-27 7:11 ` Kalle Valo
2010-01-27 1:57 ` Zhu Yi
2010-01-27 13:24 ` Benny Amorsen [this message]
2010-03-11 19:21 ` Philip A. Prindeville
[not found] ` <4B9942A7.40205-9z15yex7P+UJvtFkdXX2HpqQE7yCjDx5@public.gmane.org>
2010-03-11 19:27 ` David Miller
[not found] ` <20100311.112754.142886660.davem-fT/PcQaiUtIeIZ0/mPfg9Q@public.gmane.org>
2010-03-11 19:29 ` Philip A. Prindeville
2010-05-19 0:04 ` Philip A. Prindeville
[not found] ` <4BF32B2B.6010202-9z15yex7P+UJvtFkdXX2HpqQE7yCjDx5@public.gmane.org>
2010-05-31 19:30 ` Ben Gardiner
2010-05-31 20:28 ` Philip Prindeville
2010-01-26 14:43 ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
[not found] ` <87wrz5m3cd.fsf-ySPBbPOLdCfMApvqMRVM/A@public.gmane.org>
2010-01-26 13:06 ` Henning Rogge
2010-01-27 6:59 ` Kalle Valo
2010-01-26 15:29 ` Steven Blake
2010-01-27 7:03 ` Kalle Valo
2010-01-27 16:18 ` Olaf van der Spek
2010-03-11 18:56 ` Philip A. Prindeville
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