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From: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox•com>
To: Jeff King <peff@peff•net>
Cc: John Keeping <john@keeping•me.uk>, git@vger•kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/6] Make "local" orthogonal to date format
Date: Wed, 02 Sep 2015 08:16:59 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <xmqq4mjcq2ac.fsf@gitster.mtv.corp.google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150902080529.GA19248@sigill.intra.peff.net> (Jeff King's message of "Wed, 2 Sep 2015 04:05:29 -0400")

Jeff King <peff@peff•net> writes:

> On Wed, Sep 02, 2015 at 08:48:26AM +0100, John Keeping wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Sep 01, 2015 at 06:44:31PM -0400, Jeff King wrote:
>> > [1] I do think the error message for "relative-local is nonsense" could
>> >     perhaps be more explanatory, but I couldn't come up with any better
>> >     wording. But if you have ideas, feel free to switch it.
>> 
>> My only suggestion would be to reuse the "unknown date format: %s"
>> message and avoid having a special message in this case.
>
> Heh, that was what I was trying to avoid. I wanted to avoid "I do not
> understand our request" and have it more like "I understand what you're
> _trying_ to do, but it doesn't make sense".
>
> I guess "relative dates do not depend on timezones, so -local is
> meaningless" would be the closest thing.
>
> I don't think it is that big a deal whichever way we go, though.

I somehow thought that the discussion was about raw-local, not
relative-local, but anyway, I think it would make more sense to
allow both of them.  If you define the meaning of "-local" as:

    Pretend that the event in question was recorded with your
    timezone, and show the timestamp using the specified format sans
    -local suffix.

that explains what happens for all the other formats well, and it
also makes sense for what would happen to raw and even relative, I
think.

  reply	other threads:[~2015-09-02 15:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-08-30 13:54 [RFC/PATCH] date: allow any format to display local time John Keeping
2015-08-31 17:28 ` Junio C Hamano
2015-08-31 18:50   ` Jeff King
2015-08-31 18:56     ` Jeff King
2015-08-31 19:57     ` Junio C Hamano
2015-08-31 20:00     ` John Keeping
2015-08-31 20:44       ` Jeff King
2015-08-31 20:47         ` [PATCH 1/2] fast-import: switch crash-report date to iso8601 Jeff King
2015-08-31 20:48         ` [PATCH 2/2] date: make "local" orthogonal to date format Jeff King
2015-08-31 21:27           ` John Keeping
2015-08-31 21:33             ` Jeff King
2015-08-31 22:05               ` Jeff King
2015-09-01  8:37                 ` John Keeping
2015-09-01 21:55                   ` [PATCH v2 0/6] Make " John Keeping
2015-09-01 21:55                     ` [PATCH v2 1/6] fast-import: switch crash-report date to iso8601 John Keeping
2015-09-01 21:55                     ` [PATCH v2 2/6] date: make "local" orthogonal to date format John Keeping
2015-09-01 22:16                       ` Junio C Hamano
2015-09-01 22:25                         ` Jeff King
2015-09-01 22:33                         ` John Keeping
2015-09-01 22:39                           ` Jeff King
2015-09-01 22:41                             ` Junio C Hamano
2015-09-02 17:36                       ` Junio C Hamano
2015-09-01 21:55                     ` [PATCH v2 3/6] t6300: introduce test_date() helper John Keeping
2015-09-01 22:19                       ` Junio C Hamano
2015-09-01 22:26                       ` Eric Sunshine
2015-09-01 22:31                       ` Jeff King
2015-09-01 22:40                         ` John Keeping
2015-09-01 22:41                           ` Jeff King
2015-09-01 21:55                     ` [PATCH v2 4/6] t6300: make UTC and local dates different John Keeping
2015-09-01 21:55                     ` [PATCH v2 5/6] t6300: add test for "raw" date format John Keeping
2015-09-01 21:55                     ` [PATCH v2 6/6] t6300: add tests for "-local" date formats John Keeping
2015-09-01 22:44                     ` [PATCH v2 0/6] Make "local" orthogonal to date format Jeff King
2015-09-02  7:48                       ` John Keeping
2015-09-02  8:05                         ` Jeff King
2015-09-02 15:16                           ` Junio C Hamano [this message]
2015-09-02 19:49                             ` John Keeping
2015-09-02 20:11                               ` Junio C Hamano
2015-09-02 20:21                                 ` John Keeping
2015-09-02 20:29                                   ` Junio C Hamano
2015-09-02 21:27                                     ` Jeff King
2015-09-03 21:48                     ` [PATCH v3 00/11] " John Keeping
2015-09-03 21:48                       ` [PATCH v3 01/11] Documentation/blame-options: don't list date formats John Keeping
2015-09-03 21:48                       ` [PATCH v3 02/11] Documentation/config: " John Keeping
2015-09-03 21:48                       ` [PATCH v3 03/11] Documentation/git-for-each-ref: " John Keeping
2015-09-03 21:48                       ` [PATCH v3 04/11] Documentation/rev-list: " John Keeping
2015-09-03 22:36                         ` Junio C Hamano
2015-09-03 21:48                       ` [PATCH v3 05/11] fast-import: switch crash-report date to iso8601 John Keeping
2015-09-03 21:48                       ` [PATCH v3 06/11] t6300: introduce test_date() helper John Keeping
2015-09-03 21:48                       ` [PATCH v3 07/11] t6300: add test for "raw" date format John Keeping
2015-09-03 21:48                       ` [PATCH v3 08/11] date: check for "local" before anything else John Keeping
2015-09-03 22:45                         ` Junio C Hamano
2015-09-03 21:48                       ` [PATCH v3 09/11] date: make "local" orthogonal to date format John Keeping
2015-09-03 21:49                       ` [PATCH v3 10/11] t6300: make UTC and local dates different John Keeping
2015-09-03 21:49                       ` [PATCH v3 11/11] t6300: add tests for "-local" date formats John Keeping
2015-09-08  7:53                       ` [PATCH v3 00/11] Make "local" orthogonal to date format Jeff King
2015-09-02 17:41           ` [PATCH 2/2] date: make " Junio C Hamano
2015-09-02 21:30             ` Jeff King
2015-09-02 22:07               ` John Keeping
2015-09-03 15:54                 ` Junio C Hamano

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