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From: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox•com>
To: Felipe Contreras <felipe.contreras@gmail•com>
Cc: git@vger•kernel.org, Andreas Krey <a.krey@gmx•de>,
	John Keeping <john@keeping•me.uk>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/3] Reject non-ff pulls by default
Date: Tue, 03 Sep 2013 15:38:58 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <xmqqfvtlpm2l.fsf@gitster.dls.corp.google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAMP44s2NzzS48BBpD_oQ24t2SYETte7_U4+O+32SOo5qhooQew@mail.gmail.com> (Felipe Contreras's message of "Tue, 3 Sep 2013 16:50:46 -0500")

Felipe Contreras <felipe.contreras@gmail•com> writes:

> On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 12:21 PM, Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox•com> wrote:
>> Felipe Contreras <felipe.contreras@gmail•com> writes:
>>
>>> Junio already sent a similar patch, but I think this is simpler.
>>
>> I agree that this is simpler, but I am not sure if the behaviour is
>> necessarily better (note that this is different from saying "I think
>> the behaviour of this patch is worse").  The motivation I read from
>> the original discussion was that new people did "git pull" (no other
>> parameters) to "sync my tree with the central repository" as if it
>> were SVN, and because we are not SVN, projects that prefer rebases
>> were unhappy, and the other one was to address *only* that use case.
>> I do not personally like that special casing (i.e. "only when no
>> 'integrate with what from where' is given"), and applying the "you
>> must be explicit between rebase and merge" like this series does
>> uniformly might (or might not) be a good thing.  I dunno.
>
> As I already said; there's is essentially no difference between "git
> pull" and "git pull origin".

We know what you said earlier. That does not make it right or wrong,
but I do not think it is in line with the original discussion (that
is why John Keeping is kept on the Cc: line).

>> The difference in changes needed to the test suite is illustrative;
>> this series affects any use of "git pull" (with or without explicit
>> "what to integrate with and from where"), unlike the other one that
>> only affects the case where "git pull" was not given "what to
>> integrate with and from where".  I think an earlier draft I did for
>> the previous one did not special case "only when no 'integrate with
>> what from where' is given" and had to touch all the places in the
>> test in a similar way.
>
> Yeah, that version affects less, but it also doesn't achieve what we
> actually want.

I do not think we know what we want is to affect "git pull origin".

  reply	other threads:[~2013-09-03 22:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 84+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-08-31 22:38 [PATCH 0/3] Reject non-ff pulls by default Felipe Contreras
2013-08-31 22:38 ` [PATCH 1/3] merge: simplify ff-only option Felipe Contreras
2013-08-31 22:38 ` [PATCH 2/3] t: replace pulls with merges Felipe Contreras
2013-08-31 22:38 ` [PATCH 3/3] pull: reject non-ff pulls by default Felipe Contreras
2013-09-03 17:21 ` [PATCH 0/3] Reject " Junio C Hamano
2013-09-03 21:50   ` Felipe Contreras
2013-09-03 22:38     ` Junio C Hamano [this message]
2013-09-03 22:59       ` Felipe Contreras
2013-09-04  8:10       ` John Keeping
2013-09-04  9:25         ` Jeff King
2013-09-04 10:16           ` John Keeping
2013-09-08  2:52           ` Felipe Contreras
2013-09-08  4:18             ` Jeff King
2013-09-08  4:37               ` Felipe Contreras
2013-09-08  4:43                 ` Jeff King
2013-09-08  5:09                   ` Felipe Contreras
2013-09-08  5:21                     ` Jeff King
2013-09-08  6:17                       ` Felipe Contreras
2013-09-08  6:54                         ` Jeff King
2013-09-08  7:15                           ` Felipe Contreras
2013-09-08  7:50                             ` Jeff King
2013-09-08  8:43                               ` Felipe Contreras
2013-09-09 20:17                               ` Jeff King
2013-09-09 22:59                                 ` Felipe Contreras
2013-09-08 10:03                           ` John Keeping
2013-09-09 20:04                             ` Jeff King
2013-09-08 17:26                 ` brian m. carlson
2013-09-08 22:38                   ` Felipe Contreras
2013-09-09  0:01                     ` brian m. carlson
2013-09-09  0:29                       ` Felipe Contreras
2013-09-09  0:36                         ` Felipe Contreras
2013-09-09  0:38                           ` brian m. carlson
2013-09-09  7:18                         ` Matthieu Moy
2013-09-09 18:47                           ` Junio C Hamano
2013-09-09 19:52                             ` Jeff King
2013-09-09 20:24                               ` John Keeping
2013-09-09 20:44                                 ` Jeff King
2013-09-09 21:10                                   ` John Keeping
2013-09-09 21:48                                   ` Richard Hansen
2013-09-09 20:50                                 ` Matthieu Moy
2013-09-09 20:53                                   ` Jeff King
2013-09-09 21:34                                     ` Philip Oakley
2013-09-09 23:02                                 ` Felipe Contreras
2013-09-10  8:08                                   ` John Keeping
2013-09-09 20:47                             ` Matthieu Moy
2013-09-10 21:56                               ` Junio C Hamano
2013-09-09 23:17                           ` Felipe Contreras
2013-09-10  8:26                             ` Matthieu Moy
2013-09-11 10:53                               ` Felipe Contreras
2013-09-11 11:38                                 ` Matthieu Moy
2013-09-13  0:55                                   ` Felipe Contreras
2013-09-04 16:59         ` Junio C Hamano
2013-09-04 17:17         ` Junio C Hamano
2013-09-04 22:08           ` Philip Oakley
2013-09-04 22:59             ` Junio C Hamano
2013-09-05  8:06               ` John Keeping
2013-09-05 19:18                 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-09-05 19:26                   ` John Keeping
2013-09-06 21:41                     ` Jonathan Nieder
2013-09-06 22:14                       ` Junio C Hamano
2013-09-07 11:07                         ` John Keeping
2013-09-08  2:36                         ` Felipe Contreras
2013-09-08  2:34                 ` Felipe Contreras
2013-09-08  8:01                   ` Philip Oakley
2013-09-08  8:16                     ` Felipe Contreras
2013-09-08  8:42                       ` Philip Oakley
2013-09-08  8:49                         ` Felipe Contreras
2013-09-08 10:02                           ` Philip Oakley
2013-09-08 10:39                             ` Philip Oakley
2013-09-05 11:01               ` John Szakmeister
2013-09-05 11:38                 ` John Keeping
2013-09-05 12:37                   ` John Szakmeister
2013-09-05 15:20               ` Richard Hansen
2013-09-05 21:30               ` Philip Oakley
2013-09-05 23:45                 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-09-05 23:38               ` Junio C Hamano
2013-09-08  2:41               ` Felipe Contreras
2013-09-08  6:17                 ` Richard Hansen
2013-09-08 18:10                   ` Junio C Hamano
2013-09-08 20:05                     ` Richard Hansen
2013-09-08 22:46                     ` Philip Oakley
2013-09-08 22:46                     ` Felipe Contreras
2013-09-08 23:11                       ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-09-05 13:31           ` Greg Troxel

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