From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte•hu>
To: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership•com>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix•de>,
"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor•com>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation•org>,
Andre
Cc: Stephen Rothwell <sfr@canb•auug.org.au>, linux-next@vger•kernel.org
Subject: Re: Request for linux-next inclusion of the voyager tree
Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 22:21:30 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090609202130.GA5291@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1244477423.4079.228.camel@mulgrave.site>
* James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership•com> wrote:
> Could you add this (as a postmerge tree) somewhere after the x86
> trees, please (it depends on the auto-x86-next branch).
>
> I'll be sending the pull request for it to Linus somewhere in the
> next merge window (probably towards the end) and if he takes it,
> linux-next inclusion for a small number of patches it contains
> will probably be a recurring feature.
Sigh.
This code has been NAK-ed by the x86 maintainers:
- Due to the absurd irrelevance of Voyager/x86/Linux hardware
- Due to the thousands of lines of of code it adds to arch/x86
to support a 486/P5 era piece of hardware
- and due to its negative track record of:
v2.6.27.0: Voyager was broken - it did not even build. (!)
v2.6.28.0: Voyager was broken - it did not even build. (!)
v2.6.29-rc5: Voyager was broken - it did not even build. (!)
[ ... which was the point when we yanked it from the x86 devel
tree. Then you suddenly found interest in it again. But it was
too little, too late. Voyager is irrelevant and we've really
got better things to do than to worry about ancient, completely
irrelevant hardware. ]
And you were very much aware of its controversial nature and you
were aware of the NAK, still you sent this mail to Stephen without
Cc:-ing the x86 maintainers or without Cc:-ing lkml.
You did this on one of the last days of the development window -
generally the most impossibly busy days for upstream maintainers who
prepare for the next merge window.
I've Cc:-ed Linus - he might want to overrule our judgement and pull
this from you directly or tell us to pull it - but this should be
done above board, not below the radar on the last day of the
development window.
I made it quite clear to you why i object to this code, didnt I? See
the (long) thread at:
http://lkml.org/lkml/2009/4/15/299
James, it also would have been really honest from you to Cc: us to
this mail. I am not pushing SCSI changes into linux-next either,
against your NAKs, behind your back. I'd have expected the same of
you.
So i strongly object against this tree being included in linux-next.
Thanks,
Ingo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-06-09 20:21 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-06-08 16:10 Request for linux-next inclusion of the voyager tree James Bottomley
2009-06-08 23:28 ` Tony Breeds
2009-06-10 14:45 ` James Bottomley
2009-06-09 9:45 ` Stephen Rothwell
2009-06-09 13:49 ` James Bottomley
2009-06-09 20:21 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2009-06-09 20:33 ` James Bottomley
2009-06-09 21:18 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-06-09 23:41 ` Alan Cox
2009-06-09 23:56 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-06-10 0:04 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-10 0:30 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-06-10 1:00 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-06-10 14:38 ` James Bottomley
2009-06-10 15:20 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-10 15:28 ` James Bottomley
2009-06-10 15:33 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-10 16:19 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-06-10 16:42 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-06-10 14:23 ` James Bottomley
2009-06-10 15:13 ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-06-10 15:23 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-10 15:39 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-06-10 16:02 ` James Bottomley
2009-06-10 16:53 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-06-11 1:35 ` Stephen Rothwell
2009-06-11 1:39 ` James Bottomley
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