* Re: [RESEND] Please consider name next Linux release "I love Linux" (Re: Linux 5.19)
2022-08-12 2:39 ` Baoquan He
@ 2022-08-12 3:28 ` Huacai Chen
2022-08-12 6:31 ` Gao Xiang
2022-08-13 17:17 ` Zhang Boyang
2022-08-14 15:22 ` WANG Xuerui
2 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Huacai Chen @ 2022-08-12 3:28 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Baoquan He
Cc: Zhang Boyang, Linus Torvalds, Greg Kroah-Hartman,
Linux Kernel Mailing List, linux-next, song, wei.liu, jszhang,
Guo Ren, xiang, chao, ming.lei, Waiman Long, wqu, yhs, haoluo,
decui, Yanteng Si, Dave Young
Hi, all,
On Fri, Aug 12, 2022 at 10:40 AM Baoquan He <bhe@redhat•com> wrote:
>
> Hi Boyang,
>
> On 08/11/22 at 10:02pm, Zhang Boyang wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > On 2022/8/1 05:43, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> > > (*) I'll likely call it 6.0 since I'm starting to worry about getting
> > > confused by big numbers again.
> >
> > Could you please consider name the next Linux release (5.20 or 6.0) "I love
> > linux" ? The number "5.20" is a wordplay in Chinese, which means "I love
> > you" [1], thus "Linux 5.20" can be read as "I love Linux" in Chinese.
> >
> > Even if next kernel version is 6.0, I think it's probably a good idea for
> > both Chinese-speakers and non-Chinese speakers to express our love to Linux
> > Kernel.
>
> Interesting idea, LOL.
>
> Yes, 520 means 'I love you' in chinese since it has the similar pronunciation
> with '我爱你'. I even don't remember since when May 20th becomes another
> holiday similar to Valentine's day in China. While I have complicated feeling
> about 520. It means on each May 20th, I also need prepare gift for my wife. I
> am not a romantic person, preparing gift to lover is always a torture to me.
> So almost each May 20th day, Valentine's day, double seventh festival which is
> a traditional Valentine's day, I will become nervous, and it ends up
> with a satisfactory gift, or a bunch of flower and a digital red envelope with
> 520￥ and then complainment and blame in next two weeks.
>
> So, for naming next release as '5.20', I will vote for it w/o hesitance. No need
> to prepare gift, and can express our love to Linux kernel, it sounds
> awesome.
>
> Meanwhile, I would remind people to take it easy. Whether the suggestion
> is accepted or not, it doesn't impact the fact that linux may have
> become part of our life, not just our work, considering many kernel developers
> are workoing form home. But if you have boasted to your girlfriend
> or wife, and want to take this as a gift to her, you should try harder to
> convince Linus.
>
> Thanks
> Baoquan
Frankly, I agree with Boyang and Baoquan. :)
Huacai
>
> >
> > The name of Linux kernel release has a long history of play-on-words [2].
> > For example, 5.15 is named "Trick or Treat" and 5.17 is named "Superb Owl".
> >
> > [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_Internet_slang
> >
> > [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_kernel_version_history
> >
> > Thanks and regards,
> > Zhang Boyang
> >
>
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* Re: [RESEND] Please consider name next Linux release "I love Linux" (Re: Linux 5.19)
2022-08-12 3:28 ` Huacai Chen
@ 2022-08-12 6:31 ` Gao Xiang
2022-08-12 8:22 ` YanTeng Si
0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Gao Xiang @ 2022-08-12 6:31 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Huacai Chen, Baoquan He, Zhang Boyang
Cc: Linus Torvalds, Greg Kroah-Hartman, Linux Kernel Mailing List,
linux-next, song, wei.liu, jszhang, Guo Ren, xiang, chao,
ming.lei, Waiman Long, wqu, yhs, haoluo, decui, Yanteng Si,
Dave Young
On Fri, Aug 12, 2022 at 11:28:12AM +0800, Huacai Chen wrote:
> Hi, all,
>
> On Fri, Aug 12, 2022 at 10:40 AM Baoquan He <bhe@redhat•com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Boyang,
> >
> > On 08/11/22 at 10:02pm, Zhang Boyang wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > On 2022/8/1 05:43, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> > > > (*) I'll likely call it 6.0 since I'm starting to worry about getting
> > > > confused by big numbers again.
> > >
> > > Could you please consider name the next Linux release (5.20 or 6.0) "I love
> > > linux" ? The number "5.20" is a wordplay in Chinese, which means "I love
> > > you" [1], thus "Linux 5.20" can be read as "I love Linux" in Chinese.
> > >
> > > Even if next kernel version is 6.0, I think it's probably a good idea for
> > > both Chinese-speakers and non-Chinese speakers to express our love to Linux
> > > Kernel.
> >
> > Interesting idea, LOL.
> >
> > Yes, 520 means 'I love you' in chinese since it has the similar pronunciation
> > with '我爱你'. I even don't remember since when May 20th becomes another
> > holiday similar to Valentine's day in China. While I have complicated feeling
> > about 520. It means on each May 20th, I also need prepare gift for my wife. I
> > am not a romantic person, preparing gift to lover is always a torture to me.
> > So almost each May 20th day, Valentine's day, double seventh festival which is
> > a traditional Valentine's day, I will become nervous, and it ends up
> > with a satisfactory gift, or a bunch of flower and a digital red envelope with
> > 520￥ and then complainment and blame in next two weeks.
> >
> > So, for naming next release as '5.20', I will vote for it w/o hesitance. No need
> > to prepare gift, and can express our love to Linux kernel, it sounds
> > awesome.
> >
> > Meanwhile, I would remind people to take it easy. Whether the suggestion
> > is accepted or not, it doesn't impact the fact that linux may have
> > become part of our life, not just our work, considering many kernel developers
> > are workoing form home. But if you have boasted to your girlfriend
> > or wife, and want to take this as a gift to her, you should try harder to
> > convince Linus.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Baoquan
> Frankly, I agree with Boyang and Baoquan. :)
+1, I'm fine with either approach. If there is a 5.20 version, that is
fine.
The traditional Valentine's day of China is `Qixi Festival` which is the seventh
day of the seventh lunisolar month on the Chinese lunisolar calendar [1].
There are also other somewhat special days in China such as `Programmer day`
(Oct, 24 each year), yet I'm not sure if anyone out of China heard of it.
Personally I think 521 (yi vs ni) sounds more similar to "我爱你" in Mandarin
Chinese and who knows how many special days for couples -- since I'm single. ;)
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qixi_Festival
Thanks,
Gao Xiang
>
> Huacai
> >
> > >
> > > The name of Linux kernel release has a long history of play-on-words [2].
> > > For example, 5.15 is named "Trick or Treat" and 5.17 is named "Superb Owl".
> > >
> > > [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_Internet_slang
> > >
> > > [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_kernel_version_history
> > >
> > > Thanks and regards,
> > > Zhang Boyang
> > >
> >
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* Re: [RESEND] Please consider name next Linux release "I love Linux" (Re: Linux 5.19)
2022-08-12 6:31 ` Gao Xiang
@ 2022-08-12 8:22 ` YanTeng Si
0 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: YanTeng Si @ 2022-08-12 8:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Gao Xiang, Huacai Chen, Baoquan He, Zhang Boyang
Cc: Linus Torvalds, Greg Kroah-Hartman, Linux Kernel Mailing List,
linux-next, song, wei.liu, jszhang, Guo Ren, xiang, chao,
ming.lei, Waiman Long, wqu, yhs, haoluo, decui, Dave Young
在 2022/8/12 14:31, Gao Xiang 写道:
> On Fri, Aug 12, 2022 at 11:28:12AM +0800, Huacai Chen wrote:
>> Hi, all,
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 12, 2022 at 10:40 AM Baoquan He <bhe@redhat•com> wrote:
>>> Hi Boyang,
>>>
>>> On 08/11/22 at 10:02pm, Zhang Boyang wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> On 2022/8/1 05:43, Linus Torvalds wrote:
>>>>> (*) I'll likely call it 6.0 since I'm starting to worry about getting
>>>>> confused by big numbers again.
>>>> Could you please consider name the next Linux release (5.20 or 6.0) "I love
>>>> linux" ? The number "5.20" is a wordplay in Chinese, which means "I love
>>>> you" [1], thus "Linux 5.20" can be read as "I love Linux" in Chinese.
>>>>
>>>> Even if next kernel version is 6.0, I think it's probably a good idea for
>>>> both Chinese-speakers and non-Chinese speakers to express our love to Linux
>>>> Kernel.
>>> Interesting idea, LOL.
>>>
>>> Yes, 520 means 'I love you' in chinese since it has the similar pronunciation
>>> with '我爱你'. I even don't remember since when May 20th becomes another
>>> holiday similar to Valentine's day in China. While I have complicated feeling
>>> about 520. It means on each May 20th, I also need prepare gift for my wife. I
>>> am not a romantic person, preparing gift to lover is always a torture to me.
>>> So almost each May 20th day, Valentine's day, double seventh festival which is
>>> a traditional Valentine's day, I will become nervous, and it ends up
>>> with a satisfactory gift, or a bunch of flower and a digital red envelope with
>>> 520￥ and then complainment and blame in next two weeks.
>>>
>>> So, for naming next release as '5.20', I will vote for it w/o hesitance. No need
>>> to prepare gift, and can express our love to Linux kernel, it sounds
>>> awesome.
>>>
>>> Meanwhile, I would remind people to take it easy. Whether the suggestion
>>> is accepted or not, it doesn't impact the fact that linux may have
>>> become part of our life, not just our work, considering many kernel developers
>>> are workoing form home. But if you have boasted to your girlfriend
>>> or wife, and want to take this as a gift to her, you should try harder to
>>> convince Linus.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Baoquan
>> Frankly, I agree with Boyang and Baoquan. :)
> +1, I'm fine with either approach. If there is a 5.20 version, that is
> fine.
>
> The traditional Valentine's day of China is `Qixi Festival` which is the seventh
> day of the seventh lunisolar month on the Chinese lunisolar calendar [1].
>
> There are also other somewhat special days in China such as `Programmer day`
> (Oct, 24 each year), yet I'm not sure if anyone out of China heard of it.
>
> Personally I think 521 (yi vs ni) sounds more similar to "我爱你" in Mandarin
> Chinese and who knows how many special days for couples -- since I'm single. ;)
>
> [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qixi_Festival
How romantic! I agree to all the abrove.
Thanks,
Yanteng
>
> Thanks,
> Gao Xiang
>
>> Huacai
>>>> The name of Linux kernel release has a long history of play-on-words [2].
>>>> For example, 5.15 is named "Trick or Treat" and 5.17 is named "Superb Owl".
>>>>
>>>> [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_Internet_slang
>>>>
>>>> [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_kernel_version_history
>>>>
>>>> Thanks and regards,
>>>> Zhang Boyang
>>>>
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* Re: [RESEND] Please consider name next Linux release "I love Linux" (Re: Linux 5.19)
2022-08-12 2:39 ` Baoquan He
2022-08-12 3:28 ` Huacai Chen
@ 2022-08-13 17:17 ` Zhang Boyang
2022-08-14 15:22 ` WANG Xuerui
2 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Zhang Boyang @ 2022-08-13 17:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Baoquan He
Cc: Linus Torvalds, Greg Kroah-Hartman, Linux Kernel Mailing List,
linux-next, song, wei.liu, jszhang, chenhuacai, guoren, xiang,
chao, ming.lei, longman, wqu, yhs, haoluo, decui, siyanteng,
dyoung
On 2022/8/12 10:39, Baoquan He wrote:
> Hi Boyang,
>
> On 08/11/22 at 10:02pm, Zhang Boyang wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> On 2022/8/1 05:43, Linus Torvalds wrote:
>>> (*) I'll likely call it 6.0 since I'm starting to worry about getting
>>> confused by big numbers again.
>>
>> Could you please consider name the next Linux release (5.20 or 6.0) "I love
>> linux" ? The number "5.20" is a wordplay in Chinese, which means "I love
>> you" [1], thus "Linux 5.20" can be read as "I love Linux" in Chinese.
>>
>> Even if next kernel version is 6.0, I think it's probably a good idea for
>> both Chinese-speakers and non-Chinese speakers to express our love to Linux
>> Kernel.
>
> Interesting idea, LOL.
>
> Yes, 520 means 'I love you' in chinese since it has the similar pronunciation
> with '我爱你'. I even don't remember since when May 20th becomes another
> holiday similar to Valentine's day in China. While I have complicated feeling
> about 520. It means on each May 20th, I also need prepare gift for my wife. I
> am not a romantic person, preparing gift to lover is always a torture to me.
> So almost each May 20th day, Valentine's day, double seventh festival which is
> a traditional Valentine's day, I will become nervous, and it ends up
> with a satisfactory gift, or a bunch of flower and a digital red envelope with
> 520￥ and then complainment and blame in next two weeks.
>
> So, for naming next release as '5.20', I will vote for it w/o hesitance. No need
> to prepare gift, and can express our love to Linux kernel, it sounds
> awesome.
>
> Meanwhile, I would remind people to take it easy. Whether the suggestion
> is accepted or not, it doesn't impact the fact that linux may have
> become part of our life, not just our work, considering many kernel developers
> are workoing form home. But if you have boasted to your girlfriend
> or wife, and want to take this as a gift to her, you should try harder to
> convince Linus.
>
Yes, I think so. Linus may be too busy to respond, so let's take it easy
and let him focus on his work. :)
> Thanks
> Baoquan
>
>>
>> The name of Linux kernel release has a long history of play-on-words [2].
>> For example, 5.15 is named "Trick or Treat" and 5.17 is named "Superb Owl".
>>
>> [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_Internet_slang
>>
>> [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_kernel_version_history
>>
>> Thanks and regards,
>> Zhang Boyang
>>
>
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* Re: [RESEND] Please consider name next Linux release "I love Linux" (Re: Linux 5.19)
2022-08-12 2:39 ` Baoquan He
2022-08-12 3:28 ` Huacai Chen
2022-08-13 17:17 ` Zhang Boyang
@ 2022-08-14 15:22 ` WANG Xuerui
2 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: WANG Xuerui @ 2022-08-14 15:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Baoquan He, Zhang Boyang
Cc: Linus Torvalds, Greg Kroah-Hartman, Linux Kernel Mailing List,
linux-next, song, wei.liu, jszhang, chenhuacai, guoren, xiang,
chao, ming.lei, longman, wqu, yhs, haoluo, decui, siyanteng,
dyoung
On 8/12/22 10:39, Baoquan He wrote:
> Hi Boyang,
>
> On 08/11/22 at 10:02pm, Zhang Boyang wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> On 2022/8/1 05:43, Linus Torvalds wrote:
>>> (*) I'll likely call it 6.0 since I'm starting to worry about getting
>>> confused by big numbers again.
>> Could you please consider name the next Linux release (5.20 or 6.0) "I love
>> linux" ? The number "5.20" is a wordplay in Chinese, which means "I love
>> you" [1], thus "Linux 5.20" can be read as "I love Linux" in Chinese.
>>
>> Even if next kernel version is 6.0, I think it's probably a good idea for
>> both Chinese-speakers and non-Chinese speakers to express our love to Linux
>> Kernel.
> Interesting idea, LOL.
>
> Yes, 520 means 'I love you' in chinese since it has the similar pronunciation
> with '我爱你'. I even don't remember since when May 20th becomes another
> holiday similar to Valentine's day in China. While I have complicated feeling
> about 520. It means on each May 20th, I also need prepare gift for my wife. I
> am not a romantic person, preparing gift to lover is always a torture to me.
> So almost each May 20th day, Valentine's day, double seventh festival which is
> a traditional Valentine's day, I will become nervous, and it ends up
> with a satisfactory gift, or a bunch of flower and a digital red envelope with
> 520￥ and then complainment and blame in next two weeks.
>
> So, for naming next release as '5.20', I will vote for it w/o hesitance. No need
> to prepare gift, and can express our love to Linux kernel, it sounds
> awesome.
>
> Meanwhile, I would remind people to take it easy. Whether the suggestion
> is accepted or not, it doesn't impact the fact that linux may have
> become part of our life, not just our work, considering many kernel developers
> are workoing form home. But if you have boasted to your girlfriend
> or wife, and want to take this as a gift to her, you should try harder to
> convince Linus.
Woah. This is some of the larger-scale "cultural export" I've ever seen,
and probably the first time on LKML. I'd remember the few dry laughs
when I tried to explain the "Superb Owl" meme to my teammates,
unfamiliar with (US) English memes in general, so I could even
sympathize with those of you not knowing Chinese Internet memes...
One thing is for sure, if the next Linux version is to be kept 5.20 and
codenamed "Linux I love you" or something like that, it would certainly
make headlines on Chinese tech news sites for a while, more specifically
both after rc1 and the final release; but anyway, as Baoquan already
pointed out, our collective love for Linux and the open-source ideals
behind the whole thing is not going anywhere, no matter what the
Makefile says. (You may find it useful to make your partner happy using
the 520/521 meme too, if applicable; but from my own experience, better
not bring up Linux if your partner is not interested in that topic!)
(And, pun semi-intended for that "bringing up". ;-)
--
WANG "xen0n" Xuerui
Linux/LoongArch mailing list: https://lore.kernel.org/loongarch/
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