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From: "Gerhard Pircher" <gerhard_pircher@gmx•net>
To: David Gibson <david@gibson•dropbear.id.au>
Cc: linuxppc-dev@ozlabs•org
Subject: Re: [RFC] AmigaOne device tree source v2
Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 13:54:19 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070905115419.321990@gmx.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070905024805.GE17189@localhost.localdomain>


-------- Original-Nachricht --------
> Datum: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 12:48:05 +1000
> Von: David Gibson <david@gibson•dropbear.id.au>
> An: Gerhard Pircher <gerhard_pircher@gmx•net>
> CC: Segher Boessenkool <segher@kernel•crashing.org>, linuxppc-dev@ozlabs•org
> Betreff: Re: [RFC] AmigaOne device tree source v2

> That looks totally bogus.  Unlike Segher, I think there are a few
> cases where overlapping reg and ranges can make sense (PCI bridges
> where config space is accessed indirectly via MMIO registers which lie
> in the legacy ISA IO space is an example).  But this doesn't look like
> such a case - it just looks like whoever did the device tree
> misunderstood the distinction between reg and ranges.
AmigaOne's PCI bridge implements PCI config with indirect addressing, but
not within the ISA I/O space. I just wanted to clear up the meaning of
this reg entry, because it looks like everyone interprets the OF spec a
little bit differently.

> > > PCI legacy I/O is not direct mapped: there is no legacy I/O on a
> > > PowerPC system bus.  So, it can not be mentioned in the "ranges"
> > > property, but the PHB registers used to access it should be shown
> > > in the "reg" property.  It could be a simple linear window (it
> > > sounds like it is here?), but it could for example also be
> > > implemented via an address/data register pair.
> 
> Err... huh?  The legacy IO space is assigned a block of addresses in
> 3-word "OF-PCI-space by the PCI binding.  When that is translated into
> an MMIO range by the bridge, there's no reason that can't be encoded
> into the ranges property.
I defined the legacy I/O space together with the PCI I/O space in the
ranges property of the PCI node:
ranges = <01000000 0 00000000 fe000000 0 00c00000
The first 64k of this address space are mapped to ISA I/O in the PCI2ISA
bridge node.

> The whole damn point of the device tree is to avoid using this kind of
> non-local information "I know what the board type is over there, so it
> must be this PCI bridge over here".  The node should have a compatible
> property which is sufficient to select the right bridge driver.
Yeah, I defined a compatible = "mai,articias"; property in the pci node.
Are there any naming conventions (maybe lower case only)?

> I think this is typically badly done at the moment, simply because PCI
> has historically been set up by the platform code, rather than by a
> "host bridge driver" in the mould of other drivers.  I don't see that
> changing real soon, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't at least put
> enough information in the device tree to make it possible.
I agree (even if it means more work for me :-)

I'll post a revised version of the device tree.

Thanks!

Gerhard
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  reply	other threads:[~2007-09-05 11:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-08-31 17:50 [RFC] AmigaOne device tree source v2 Gerhard Pircher
2007-09-03  1:34 ` David Gibson
2007-09-03  8:41   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-09-03 10:02     ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-09-03 10:12       ` David Gibson
2007-09-03 16:11         ` Gerhard Pircher
2007-09-03 22:52           ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-09-04  0:27             ` David Gibson
2007-09-06 13:31               ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-09-04 12:20             ` Gerhard Pircher
2007-09-06 13:41               ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-09-03 14:58   ` Gerhard Pircher
2007-09-03 22:32     ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-09-04 11:49       ` Gerhard Pircher
2007-09-05  2:48         ` David Gibson
2007-09-05 11:54           ` Gerhard Pircher [this message]
2007-09-06 14:00             ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-09-06 14:09               ` Sven Luther
2007-09-06 14:42                 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-09-06 13:56           ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-09-06 14:15             ` PCI I/O space -- reg or ranges? Scott Wood
2007-09-06 20:51               ` Gerhard Pircher
2007-09-06 21:01                 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-09-07  0:20             ` [RFC] AmigaOne device tree source v2 David Gibson
2007-09-06 13:36         ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-09-06 21:09           ` Gerhard Pircher
2007-09-07  0:21           ` David Gibson

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