* question : DMA of PCI bridge @ 2009-05-20 3:19 Sauce.Cheng 2009-05-20 3:51 ` David Hawkins 0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread From: Sauce.Cheng @ 2009-05-20 3:19 UTC (permalink / raw) To: linuxppc-dev excuse me I hate to bother everyone but I have a question about DMA of PCI bridge Now I attempt to fetch data from peripheral device to SDRAM, and it has been successed but how the DMA controller know the data bandwidth of src and dest. for example, if i get a 16bits data with a 32bits bus, and other 16bits will be set high and data will fetched into cache line of dma, then it will be wrote to 32bits SDRAM. i guess the data will be wrong, isn't ? please give me some advices. thank you -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/question-%3A-DMA-of-PCI-bridge-tp23628338p23628338.html Sent from the linuxppc-dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 5+ messages in thread
* Re: question : DMA of PCI bridge 2009-05-20 3:19 question : DMA of PCI bridge Sauce.Cheng @ 2009-05-20 3:51 ` David Hawkins 2009-05-21 3:42 ` Sauce.Cheng 0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread From: David Hawkins @ 2009-05-20 3:51 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Sauce.Cheng; +Cc: linuxppc-dev Hi, > Now I attempt to fetch data from peripheral device to SDRAM, and it has been > successed > > but how the DMA controller know the data bandwidth of src and dest. > > for example, if i get a 16bits data with a 32bits bus, and other 16bits will > be set high > and data will fetched into cache line of dma, then it will be wrote to > 32bits SDRAM. You'll need to give us a little more detail. For example, what processor are you using to perform the transaction? Your email title says DMA of PCI bridge, however, you mention peripheral to SDRAM. Are you using a DMA controller on the peripheral, eg. a PCI bus master, to DMA into the host SDRAM, or are you using a host DMA controller to DMA over PCI into memory on the host? Whether or not you get packing bytes when you access a 16-bit device and transfer the data to a 32-bit destination depends on how the device is mapped. For example, a 16-bit device can be implemented such that it responds to 8-bit, 16-bit, and 32-bit requests, but the 32-bit requests will require more wait-states, since the device has to be read from twice before constructing a 32-bit word to place on the PCI bus. Its also possible that the DMA controller can be configured to deal with different source and destination widths. However without knowing what processor or DMA controller you are asking about, theres not much to say. Cheers, Dave ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 5+ messages in thread
* Re: question : DMA of PCI bridge 2009-05-20 3:51 ` David Hawkins @ 2009-05-21 3:42 ` Sauce.Cheng 2009-05-21 3:57 ` David Hawkins 0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread From: Sauce.Cheng @ 2009-05-21 3:42 UTC (permalink / raw) To: linuxppc-dev thank you dave for your reply my processor is MPC8247, on Linux 2.6.11 in MPC8247 manual reference, the interrupt of DMA unit belonged PCI bridge. that is different from SDMA and IDMA. through i do not know what 's the different. heard SDMA is used to transfer between CPM and 60x. DMA is used to transfer between 60x bus and PCI, or 60x bus - 60x bus. i am not sure. > Whether or not you get packing bytes when you access a > 16-bit device and transfer the data to a 32-bit destination > depends on how the device is mapped. For example, a 16-bit > device can be implemented such that it responds to 8-bit, > 16-bit, and 32-bit requests, but the 32-bit requests will > require more wait-states, since the device has to be > read from twice before constructing a 32-bit word to > place on the PCI bus. ya, that's it > Its also possible that the DMA controller can be configured > to deal with different source and destination widths. However > without knowing what processor or DMA controller you are > asking about, theres not much to say. in the manual reference charpter 9.13 DMA, source and destination address can be configured. i can not find the hint about source and destination widths configured. -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/question-%3A-DMA-of-PCI-bridge-tp23628338p23647394.html Sent from the linuxppc-dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 5+ messages in thread
* Re: question : DMA of PCI bridge 2009-05-21 3:42 ` Sauce.Cheng @ 2009-05-21 3:57 ` David Hawkins 2009-05-22 3:24 ` Sauce.Cheng 0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread From: David Hawkins @ 2009-05-21 3:57 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Sauce.Cheng; +Cc: linuxppc-dev Hi, > my processor is MPC8247, on Linux 2.6.11 > > in MPC8247 manual reference, the interrupt of DMA unit belonged PCI bridge. > that is different from SDMA and IDMA. through i do not know what 's the > different. heard SDMA is used to transfer between CPM and 60x. DMA is used > to transfer between 60x bus and PCI, or 60x bus - 60x bus. i am not sure. > >> Whether or not you get packing bytes when you access a >> 16-bit device and transfer the data to a 32-bit destination >> depends on how the device is mapped. For example, a 16-bit >> device can be implemented such that it responds to 8-bit, >> 16-bit, and 32-bit requests, but the 32-bit requests will >> require more wait-states, since the device has to be >> read from twice before constructing a 32-bit word to >> place on the PCI bus. > > ya, that's it > >> Its also possible that the DMA controller can be configured >> to deal with different source and destination widths. However >> without knowing what processor or DMA controller you are >> asking about, theres not much to say. > > in the manual reference charpter 9.13 DMA, source and destination address > can be configured. i can not find the hint about source and destination > widths configured. I won't have a chance to look at the MPC8247 manual, so I'll just give a general comment. If you are DMAing from an internal peripheral, then it's width will be hard-coded and can be read from the user-manual. If you are DMAing from a local bus then the local bus definition should determine what happens. For example, on the MPC8349, you can put 16-bit flash on the local bus, and configure the local bus controller to know that it is 16-bits wide. A 32-bit access by the CPU or DMA controller will generate two reads on the local bus. You can investigate to see whether the MPC8247 works similarly. Cheers, Dave ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 5+ messages in thread
* Re: question : DMA of PCI bridge 2009-05-21 3:57 ` David Hawkins @ 2009-05-22 3:24 ` Sauce.Cheng 0 siblings, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread From: Sauce.Cheng @ 2009-05-22 3:24 UTC (permalink / raw) To: linuxppc-dev > > in the manual reference charpter 9.13 DMA, source and destination address > If you are DMAing from an internal peripheral, then it's > width will be hard-coded and can be read from the user-manual. you mean it will be set by hard circuit ? maybe i should talk with your hard engineer. but as you say, the width will be hard-coded, mean that the width can not be changed ? it can fetch 16 bits to 32bits, can not tetch 16bits to 16bits ? i am sorry about my poor English, i am not sure if i expressed clearly > If you are DMAing from a local bus then the local bus definition > should determine what happens. For example, on the MPC8349, you > can put 16-bit flash on the local bus, and configure the local > bus controller to know that it is 16-bits wide. A 32-bit access > by the CPU or DMA controller will generate two reads on the > local bus. that's right, BRx and ORx should be configured for setting width, but that is bus width, not data width. or bus width should be equal to data width what fetch from the bus ? > You can investigate to see whether the MPC8247 works similarly. all right, i will , thanks a lot -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/question-%3A-DMA-of-PCI-bridge-tp23628338p23663840.html Sent from the linuxppc-dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 5+ messages in thread
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