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From: Tim Bird <tim.bird@am•sony.com>
To: Dan Malek <dan@embeddedalley•com>
Cc: Olof Johansson <olof@lixom•net>,
	linuxppc-dev@ozlabs•org, Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba•org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 10/11] Add MPC8360EMDS board support
Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2006 10:28:25 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4523EF39.50107@am.sony.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2867EA41-5135-43F7-9873-044C617EAC1B@embeddedalley.com>

Dan Malek wrote:
> I'm not against using the device tree (or platform data
> or #defines) when it's appropriate to do so.  I think our
> obsession to represent everything there is what is
> creating the complexity.  If a #define in a board
> specific port file makes sense, then just do that,
> even if it is a BSCR address.  The device tree just
> seems like the new toy that everyone wants to play
> with, and we are forgetting that the old fashioned way
> of just writing some C code may be the way
> to implement what we need.

I'd like to "second" a lot of what Dan is saying.

Linux increasingly drifts away from simple, adequate
solutions (that admittedly require a bit of embedded
developer elbow grease), towards these types of
"grand unification" schemes, which actually interfere
with goals in the embedded space.

=============================
Tim Bird
Architecture Group Chair, CE Linux Forum
Senior Staff Engineer, Sony Electronics
=============================

  reply	other threads:[~2006-10-04 17:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-09-21 12:20 [PATCH 10/11] Add MPC8360EMDS board support Li Yang
2006-09-27  6:39 ` Paul Mackerras
2006-09-27 11:56   ` Vitaly Bordug
2006-09-27 12:02     ` Li Yang-r58472
2006-09-27 12:55       ` Vitaly Bordug
2006-09-27 13:09         ` Ben Warren
2006-09-27 13:20         ` Li Yang-r58472
2006-09-27 13:33           ` Kumar Gala
2006-09-28  6:12             ` Li Yang-r58472
2006-09-30  0:49             ` Paul Mackerras
2006-09-27 14:14           ` Jon Loeliger
2006-09-28  6:38             ` Li Yang-r58472
2006-09-27 14:42         ` Dan Malek
2006-09-27 16:22           ` Olof Johansson
2006-09-28  4:10             ` Dan Malek
2006-09-30 15:56               ` Li Yang
2006-10-04  0:40               ` Paul Mackerras
2006-10-04 13:53                 ` Dan Malek
2006-10-04 17:28                   ` Tim Bird [this message]
2006-10-05  0:27                   ` Paul Mackerras
2006-10-05  6:29                     ` Eugene Surovegin
2006-10-04  6:08               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-10-04 14:48                 ` Dan Malek
2006-10-04 23:36                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-10-05  0:03                     ` Paul Mackerras
2006-10-05  0:08                       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-10-05  0:16                       ` Vitaly Bordug
2006-10-05  6:21                     ` Eugene Surovegin
2006-10-05  6:26                       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-10-05  6:31                         ` Eugene Surovegin
2006-10-05  6:33                         ` Eugene Surovegin
2006-10-05  6:51                           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-10-04  5:52           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-10-04 14:57             ` Dan Malek
2006-10-04 16:05               ` Jerry Van Baren
2006-09-27 14:57         ` Sergei Shtylyov
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2006-09-27 13:54 Joakim Tjernlund

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