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From: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel•crashing.org>
To: Sinan Kaya <okaya@codeaurora•org>, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb•de>,
	Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe•ca>
Cc: David Laight <David.Laight@aculab•com>, Oliver <oohall@gmail•com>,
	"open list:LINUX FOR POWERPC (32-BIT AND 64-BIT)"
	<linuxppc-dev@lists•ozlabs.org>,
	"linux-rdma@vger•kernel.org" <linux-rdma@vger•kernel.org>,
	Alexander Duyck <alexander.h.duyck@redhat•com>,
	Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm•com>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux•vnet.ibm.com>,
	"netdev@vger•kernel.org" <netdev@vger•kernel.org>,
	Alexander Duyck <alexander.duyck@gmail•com>
Subject: Re: RFC on writel and writel_relaxed
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2018 08:35:19 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1522186519.7364.64.camel@kernel.crashing.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1e077f6a-90b6-cce9-6f0f-a8c003fec850@codeaurora.org>

On Tue, 2018-03-27 at 10:46 -0400, Sinan Kaya wrote:
>  combined buffers.
> 
> Alex:
> "Don't bother. I can tell you right now that for x86 you have to have a
> wmb() before the writel().

No, this isn't the semantics of writel. You shouldn't need it unless
something changed and we need to revisit our complete understanding of
*all* MMIO accessor semantics.

At least for UC space, it has always been accepted (and enforced) that
writel would not require any other barrier to order vs. previous stores
to memory.

> Based on the comment in
> (https://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-rdma/msg62666.html):
>     Replacing wmb() + writel() with wmb() + writel_relaxed() will work on
>     PPC, it will just not give you a benefit today.
> 
> I say the patch set stays. This gives benefit on ARM, and has no
> effect on x86 and PowerPC. If you want to look at trying to optimize
> things further on PowerPC and such then go for it in terms of trying
> to implement the writel_relaxed(). Otherwise I say we call the ARM
> goodness a win and don't get ourselves too wrapped up in trying to fix
> this for all architectures."

  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-03-27 21:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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2018-03-27 14:46                         ` RFC on writel and writel_relaxed Sinan Kaya
2018-03-27 15:01                           ` Jose Abreu
2018-03-27 15:10                           ` Will Deacon
2018-03-27 18:54                             ` Alexander Duyck
2018-03-27 19:54                               ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-03-27 20:46                                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-03-27 21:33                               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-03-28  0:39                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2018-03-28  1:03                                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-03-28  2:51                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2018-03-28  3:24                                       ` Sinan Kaya
2018-03-28  4:41                                         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-03-28  6:14                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2018-03-28 11:41                                           ` okaya
2018-03-28 15:13                                             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-03-28 15:55                                               ` David Miller
2018-03-28 16:23                                                 ` Nicholas Piggin
2018-03-28 21:31                                                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-03-28 22:09                                                     ` Nicholas Piggin
2018-03-29  9:20                                                     ` Will Deacon
2018-03-29 13:56                                                 ` Sinan Kaya
2018-03-29 14:04                                                   ` David Miller
2018-03-29 16:29                                                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-03-29 16:59                                                     ` Sinan Kaya
2018-03-30  1:40                                                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-04-02 13:01                                                     ` Sinan Kaya
2018-03-28  4:33                                       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-03-28  6:26                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2018-03-28  6:42                                           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-03-28  6:53                                             ` Linus Torvalds
2018-03-28  6:56                                               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-03-28  7:11                                                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-03-28  7:42                                                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-03-28  9:07                                             ` Will Deacon
2018-03-28  9:56                                               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-03-28 10:13                                                 ` Aw: " Lino Sanfilippo
2018-03-28 10:20                                                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-03-28 11:30                                                 ` David Laight
2018-03-28 15:12                                                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-03-28 16:16                                                     ` David Laight
2018-03-28  1:21                             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-03-27 21:35                           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt [this message]
2018-03-27 21:54 Alexander Duyck
2018-03-27 22:35 ` Sinan Kaya
2018-03-27 23:43 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt

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