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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead•org>
To: Alexei Starovoitov <alexei.starovoitov@gmail•com>
Cc: Alexei Starovoitov <ast@kernel•org>,
	davem@davemloft•net, daniel@iogearbox•net,
	jakub.kicinski@netronome•com, netdev@vger•kernel.org,
	kernel-team@fb•com, mingo@redhat•com, will.deacon@arm•com,
	Paul McKenney <paulmck@linux•vnet.ibm.com>,
	jannh@google•com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 bpf-next 1/9] bpf: introduce bpf_spin_lock
Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2019 09:35:08 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190128083508.GA28878@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190128083123.GB28467@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net>

On Mon, Jan 28, 2019 at 09:31:23AM +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 25, 2019 at 03:42:43PM -0800, Alexei Starovoitov wrote:
> > On Fri, Jan 25, 2019 at 10:10:57AM +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > > On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 03:58:59PM -0800, Alexei Starovoitov wrote:
> 
> > >  > nmi checks for bpf_prog_active==0. See bpf_overflow_handler.
> 
> > > yuck yuck yuck.. That's horrific :-( That means the whole BPF crud is
> > > unreliable and events can go randomly missing.
> > 
> > bpf_prog_active is the mechanism to workaround non-reentrant pieces of the kernel.
> 
> 'the kernel' or 'bpf' ?
> 
> perf has a recursion counter per context (task,softirq,hardirq,nmi) and
> that ensures that perf doesn't recurse in on itself while allowing the
> nesting of these contexts.
> 
> But if BPF itself is not able to deal with such nesting that won't work
> of course.

Ooh, later you say:

> Also we allow tracing progs to nest with networking progs.

Which seems to suggest BPF itself can suppord (limited) nesting.

See: kernel/events/internal.h:get_recursion_context()


  reply	other threads:[~2019-01-28  8:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-01-24  4:13 [PATCH v4 bpf-next 0/9] introduce bpf_spin_lock Alexei Starovoitov
2019-01-24  4:13 ` [PATCH v4 bpf-next 1/9] bpf: " Alexei Starovoitov
2019-01-24 18:01   ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-01-24 18:56     ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-01-24 23:42       ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-01-25  0:05         ` Alexei Starovoitov
2019-01-25  1:22           ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-01-25  1:46             ` Jann Horn
2019-01-25  2:38               ` Alexei Starovoitov
2019-01-25  4:27                 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2019-01-25  4:31                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-01-25  4:47                     ` Alexei Starovoitov
2019-01-25 16:02                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-01-25  4:11               ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-01-25 16:18                 ` Jann Horn
2019-01-25 22:51                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-01-25 23:44                     ` Alexei Starovoitov
2019-01-26  0:43                       ` Jann Horn
2019-01-26  0:59                         ` Jann Horn
2019-01-24 23:58     ` Alexei Starovoitov
2019-01-25  0:18       ` Jann Horn
2019-01-25  2:49         ` Alexei Starovoitov
2019-01-25  2:29       ` Eric Dumazet
2019-01-25  2:34         ` Alexei Starovoitov
2019-01-25  2:44           ` Eric Dumazet
2019-01-25  2:57             ` Alexei Starovoitov
2019-01-25  8:38               ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-01-25  9:10       ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-01-25 23:42         ` Alexei Starovoitov
2019-01-28  8:24           ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-01-28  8:31           ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-01-28  8:35             ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2019-01-28 20:49               ` Alexei Starovoitov
2019-01-28  8:43           ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-01-28 21:37             ` Alexei Starovoitov
2019-01-29  8:59               ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-01-30  2:20                 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2019-01-25  9:59       ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-01-25 10:09       ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-01-25 10:23       ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-01-26  0:17         ` bpf memory model. Was: " Alexei Starovoitov
2019-01-28  9:24           ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-01-28 21:56             ` Alexei Starovoitov
2019-01-29  9:16               ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-01-30  2:32                 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2019-01-30  8:58                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-01-30 19:36                     ` Alexei Starovoitov
2019-01-30 18:11               ` Will Deacon
2019-01-30 18:36                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-01-30 19:51                   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2019-01-30 21:05                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-01-30 22:57                       ` Alexei Starovoitov
2019-01-31 14:01                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-01-31 18:47                           ` Alexei Starovoitov
2019-02-01 14:05                             ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-01-30 19:50                 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2019-01-24  4:13 ` [PATCH v4 bpf-next 2/9] bpf: add support for bpf_spin_lock to cgroup local storage Alexei Starovoitov
2019-01-24  4:13 ` [PATCH v4 bpf-next 3/9] tools/bpf: sync include/uapi/linux/bpf.h Alexei Starovoitov
2019-01-24  4:13 ` [PATCH v4 bpf-next 4/9] selftests/bpf: add bpf_spin_lock tests Alexei Starovoitov
2019-01-24  4:13 ` [PATCH v4 bpf-next 5/9] selftests/bpf: add bpf_spin_lock C test Alexei Starovoitov
2019-01-24  4:14 ` [PATCH v4 bpf-next 6/9] bpf: introduce BPF_F_LOCK flag Alexei Starovoitov
2019-01-24  4:14 ` [PATCH v4 bpf-next 7/9] tools/bpf: sync uapi/bpf.h Alexei Starovoitov

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