From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead•org>
To: Alexei Starovoitov <alexei.starovoitov@gmail•com>
Cc: Alexei Starovoitov <ast@kernel•org>,
davem@davemloft•net, daniel@iogearbox•net,
jakub.kicinski@netronome•com, netdev@vger•kernel.org,
kernel-team@fb•com, mingo@redhat•com, will.deacon@arm•com,
Paul McKenney <paulmck@linux•vnet.ibm.com>,
jannh@google•com
Subject: Re: bpf memory model. Was: [PATCH v4 bpf-next 1/9] bpf: introduce bpf_spin_lock
Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2019 10:16:54 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190129091654.GD28485@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190128215623.6eqskzhklydhympa@ast-mbp>
On Mon, Jan 28, 2019 at 01:56:24PM -0800, Alexei Starovoitov wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 28, 2019 at 10:24:08AM +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > Ah, but the loop won't be in the BPF program itself. The BPF program
> > would only have had the BPF_SPIN_LOCK instruction, the JIT them emits
> > code similar to queued_spin_lock()/queued_spin_unlock() (or calls to
> > out-of-line versions of them).
>
> As I said we considered exactly that and such approach has a lot of downsides
> comparing with the helper approach.
> Pretty much every time new feature is added we're evaluating whether it
> should be new instruction or new helper. 99% of the time we go with new helper.
Ah; it seems I'm confused on helper vs instruction. As in, I've no idea
what a helper is.
> > There isn't anything that mandates the JIT uses the exact same locking
> > routines the interpreter does, is there?
>
> sure. This bpf_spin_lock() helper can be optimized whichever way the kernel wants.
> Like bpf_map_lookup_elem() call is _inlined_ by the verifier for certain map types.
> JITs don't even need to do anything. It looks like function call from bpf prog
> point of view, but in JITed code it is a sequence of native instructions.
>
> Say tomorrow we find out that bpf_prog->bpf_spin_lock()->queued_spin_lock()
> takes too much time then we can inline fast path of queued_spin_lock
> directly into bpf prog and save function call cost.
OK, so then the JIT can optimize helpers. Would it not make sense to
have the simple test-and-set spinlock in the generic code and have the
JITs use arch_spinlock_t where appropriate?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-01-29 9:17 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-01-24 4:13 [PATCH v4 bpf-next 0/9] introduce bpf_spin_lock Alexei Starovoitov
2019-01-24 4:13 ` [PATCH v4 bpf-next 1/9] bpf: " Alexei Starovoitov
2019-01-24 18:01 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-01-24 18:56 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-01-24 23:42 ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-01-25 0:05 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2019-01-25 1:22 ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-01-25 1:46 ` Jann Horn
2019-01-25 2:38 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2019-01-25 4:27 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2019-01-25 4:31 ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-01-25 4:47 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2019-01-25 16:02 ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-01-25 4:11 ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-01-25 16:18 ` Jann Horn
2019-01-25 22:51 ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-01-25 23:44 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2019-01-26 0:43 ` Jann Horn
2019-01-26 0:59 ` Jann Horn
2019-01-24 23:58 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2019-01-25 0:18 ` Jann Horn
2019-01-25 2:49 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2019-01-25 2:29 ` Eric Dumazet
2019-01-25 2:34 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2019-01-25 2:44 ` Eric Dumazet
2019-01-25 2:57 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2019-01-25 8:38 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-01-25 9:10 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-01-25 23:42 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2019-01-28 8:24 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-01-28 8:31 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-01-28 8:35 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-01-28 20:49 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2019-01-28 8:43 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-01-28 21:37 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2019-01-29 8:59 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-01-30 2:20 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2019-01-25 9:59 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-01-25 10:09 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-01-25 10:23 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-01-26 0:17 ` bpf memory model. Was: " Alexei Starovoitov
2019-01-28 9:24 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-01-28 21:56 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2019-01-29 9:16 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2019-01-30 2:32 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2019-01-30 8:58 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-01-30 19:36 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2019-01-30 18:11 ` Will Deacon
2019-01-30 18:36 ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-01-30 19:51 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2019-01-30 21:05 ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-01-30 22:57 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2019-01-31 14:01 ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-01-31 18:47 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2019-02-01 14:05 ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-01-30 19:50 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2019-01-24 4:13 ` [PATCH v4 bpf-next 2/9] bpf: add support for bpf_spin_lock to cgroup local storage Alexei Starovoitov
2019-01-24 4:13 ` [PATCH v4 bpf-next 3/9] tools/bpf: sync include/uapi/linux/bpf.h Alexei Starovoitov
2019-01-24 4:13 ` [PATCH v4 bpf-next 4/9] selftests/bpf: add bpf_spin_lock tests Alexei Starovoitov
2019-01-24 4:13 ` [PATCH v4 bpf-next 5/9] selftests/bpf: add bpf_spin_lock C test Alexei Starovoitov
2019-01-24 4:14 ` [PATCH v4 bpf-next 6/9] bpf: introduce BPF_F_LOCK flag Alexei Starovoitov
2019-01-24 4:14 ` [PATCH v4 bpf-next 7/9] tools/bpf: sync uapi/bpf.h Alexei Starovoitov
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