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From: roopa <roopa@cumulusnetworks•com>
To: Scott Feldman <sfeldma@gmail•com>
Cc: "John Fastabend" <john.r.fastabend@intel•com>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft•net>,
	"Jiří Pírko" <jiri@resnulli•us>,
	"Arad, Ronen" <ronen.arad@intel•com>,
	Netdev <netdev@vger•kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next RFC v2] switchdev: bridge: drop hardware forwarded packets
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2015 15:06:21 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <550C99DD.3090007@cumulusnetworks.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAE4R7bCC=VZerEfVRfn=NmQvE9bwQ-KGo7v77ghHOLAR5p5hwg@mail.gmail.com>

On 3/20/15, 11:13 AM, Scott Feldman wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 10:11 AM, John Fastabend
> <john.r.fastabend@intel•com> wrote:
>> On 03/20/2015 09:58 AM, roopa@cumulusnetworks•com wrote:
>>> From: Roopa Prabhu <roopa@cumulusnetworks•com>
>>>
>>> On a Linux bridge with bridge forwarding offloaded to switch ASIC,
>>> there is a need to not re-forward frames that have already been
>>> forwarded in hardware.
>>>
>>> Typically these are broadcast or multicast frames forwarded by the
>>> hardware to multiple destination ports including sending a copy of
>>> the packet to the cpu (kernel e.g. an arp broadcast).
>>> The bridge driver will try to forward the packet again, resulting in
>>> two copies of the same packet.
>>>
>>> These packets can also come up to the kernel for logging when they hit
>>> a LOG acl rule in hardware. In such cases, you do want the packet
>>> to go through the bridge netfilter hooks. Hence, this patch adds the
>>> required checks just before the packet is being xmited.
>>>
>>> v2:
>>>        - Add a new hw_fwded flag in skbuff to indicate that the packet
>>>        is already hardware forwarded. Switch driver will set this flag.
>>>        I have been trying to avoid having this flag in the skb
>>>        and thats why this patch has been in my tree for long. Cant think
>>>        of other better alternatives. Suggestions are welcome. I have put
>>>        this under CONFIG_NET_SWITCHDEV to minimize the impact.
>>>
>>> Signed-off-by: Roopa Prabhu <roopa@cumulusnetworks•com>
>>> Signed-off-by: Wilson Kok <wkok@cumulusnetworks•com>
>>> ---
>> Interesting. I completely avoid this problem by not instantiating a
>> software bridge ;) When these pkts come up the stack I either use a
>> raw socket to capture them, put a 'tc' ingress rule to do something,
>> or have OVS handle them in some special way. It seems to me that this
>> is where the sw/hw model starts to break when you have these magic
>> bits to handle the packets differently.
>>
>> How do you know to set the skb bit? Do you have some indicator in the
>> descriptor? I don't have any good way to learn this on my hardware. But
>> I can assume if it reached the CPU it was because of some explicit rule.
> I was wondering that also, since there was no example.
>
> This features seems like it belongs in the bridge.
yes, it does, the check today is really in the bridge.
> We already have
> BR_FLOOD to indicate whether unknown unicast traffic is flooded to a
> bridge port.  Can we add another BR_FLOOD_BCAST (or some name) for
> this new feature?  You would set/clear this flag on the bridge
> (master) port.  The default is set.  And now:
>
> - #define BR_AUTO_MASK          (BR_FLOOD | BR_LEARNING)
> + #define BR_AUTO_MASK          (BR_FLOOD | BR_FLOOD_BCAST | BR_LEARNING)
>
> Does this work for your use-case, Roopa?
Note my first RFC patch, sort of did this:
https://marc.info/?l=linux-netdev&m=142147999420017&w=2

But there are open things there as listed in the comment and also in the 
subsequent
discussion on the thread.

We discussed this flag before and i think it does not allow the case 
where hw switch ports are  bridged with non-hw ports.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-03-20 22:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-03-20 16:58 [PATCH net-next RFC v2] switchdev: bridge: drop hardware forwarded packets roopa
2015-03-20 17:11 ` John Fastabend
2015-03-20 18:13   ` Scott Feldman
2015-03-20 18:30     ` John Fastabend
2015-03-20 22:06     ` roopa [this message]
2015-03-20 22:37       ` Scott Feldman
2015-03-20 23:30         ` roopa
2015-03-21  0:26           ` Scott Feldman
2015-03-21  5:53             ` roopa
2015-03-20 21:03   ` roopa
2015-03-20 21:23     ` John Fastabend
2015-03-20 22:04       ` Andrew Lunn
2015-03-20 23:12       ` roopa
2015-03-20 18:03 ` Scott Feldman
2015-03-20 21:20   ` roopa
2015-03-20 20:36 ` David Miller
2015-03-20 21:36   ` roopa
2015-03-20 22:09     ` Andrew Lunn
2015-03-20 23:43       ` Florian Fainelli
2015-03-23  0:22       ` Guenter Roeck
2015-03-23  1:33         ` John Fastabend
2015-03-23  2:57           ` Guenter Roeck
2015-03-23  3:18             ` John Fastabend
2015-03-23  3:33               ` Guenter Roeck
2015-03-23 17:12                 ` roopa
2015-03-24  5:59                   ` Scott Feldman
2015-03-24 13:13                     ` Guenter Roeck
2015-03-24 18:08                       ` Scott Feldman
2015-03-24 14:29                     ` Jiri Pirko
2015-03-24 16:01                       ` Guenter Roeck
2015-03-24 17:45                         ` roopa
2015-03-24 17:58                           ` Guenter Roeck
2015-03-24 18:14                             ` Scott Feldman
2015-03-25  3:10                               ` Guenter Roeck
2015-03-25  3:46                               ` Florian Fainelli
2015-03-25  5:06                                 ` Scott Feldman
2015-03-25 17:01                                   ` roopa
2015-03-26  7:44                                     ` Scott Feldman
2015-03-26  8:20                                       ` Jiri Pirko
2015-03-26 14:28                                         ` Scott Feldman
2015-03-26 14:49                                           ` Jiri Pirko
2015-03-27  1:08                                             ` Simon Horman
2015-03-27  6:02                                               ` Jiri Pirko
2015-03-27  6:43                                             ` Scott Feldman
2015-03-27  7:01                                               ` Jiri Pirko
2015-03-27 23:19                                                 ` Scott Feldman
2015-03-30 14:06                                       ` roopa
2015-03-24 18:48                             ` David Christensen
2015-03-24 17:58                         ` Scott Feldman
2015-03-23 17:10           ` roopa
2015-03-23 14:00         ` roopa

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