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From: roopa <roopa@cumulusnetworks•com>
To: Scott Feldman <sfeldma@gmail•com>
Cc: Florian Fainelli <f.fainelli@gmail•com>,
	Guenter Roeck <linux@roeck-us•net>, Jiri Pirko <jiri@resnulli•us>,
	John Fastabend <john.fastabend@gmail•com>,
	Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn•ch>, David Miller <davem@davemloft•net>,
	"Arad, Ronen" <ronen.arad@intel•com>,
	Netdev <netdev@vger•kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next RFC v2] switchdev: bridge: drop hardware forwarded packets
Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2015 10:01:32 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5512E9EC.5020504@cumulusnetworks.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAE4R7bBeFg9v-CnUJU-0pe8ZS4AYXQNAGNTcvCrHdZ1ggYmOPA@mail.gmail.com>

On 3/24/15, 10:06 PM, Scott Feldman wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 8:46 PM, Florian Fainelli <f.fainelli@gmail•com> wrote:
>> 2015-03-24 11:14 GMT-07:00 Scott Feldman <sfeldma@gmail•com>:
>>> On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 10:58 AM, Guenter Roeck <linux@roeck-us•net> wrote:
>>>> On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 10:45:03AM -0700, roopa wrote:
>>>>> On 3/24/15, 9:01 AM, Guenter Roeck wrote:
>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 03:29:21PM +0100, Jiri Pirko wrote:
>>>>>>>> diff --git a/drivers/net/ethernet/rocker/rocker.c
>>>>>>>> b/drivers/net/ethernet/rocker/rocker.c
>>>>>>>> index aab962c..0f7217f7 100644
>>>>>>>> --- a/drivers/net/ethernet/rocker/rocker.c
>>>>>>>> +++ b/drivers/net/ethernet/rocker/rocker.c
>>>>>>>> @@ -3931,15 +3931,28 @@ unmap_frag:
>>>>>>>>         return -EMSGSIZE;
>>>>>>>> }
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> +static bool rocker_port_dev_check(struct net_device *dev);
>>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>>> static netdev_tx_t rocker_port_xmit(struct sk_buff *skb, struct
>>>>>>>> net_device *dev)
>>>>>>>> {
>>>>>>>>         struct rocker_port *rocker_port = netdev_priv(dev);
>>>>>>>>         struct rocker *rocker = rocker_port->rocker;
>>>>>>>>         struct rocker_desc_info *desc_info;
>>>>>>>>         struct rocker_tlv *frags;
>>>>>>>> +       struct net_device *in_dev;
>>>>>>>>         int i;
>>>>>>>>         int err;
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> +       if (rocker_port_is_bridged(rocker_port)) {
>>>>>>>> +               rcu_read_lock();
>>>>>>>> +               in_dev = dev_get_by_index_rcu(dev_net(dev), skb->skb_iif);
>>>>>>> Hmm, you iterate over all ports for every xmit call :/
>>>>>>> Would be nicer if skb_iif would be netdev poiter. Not sure it is doable.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> It may be easier (and faster) to loop through all rocker ports and try to find
>>>>>> one with the same ifindex. Then the dev_check call would not be necessary.
>>>>>>
>>>>> This is still overhead for every packet on the switches we support. The
>>>>> number of ports can go close to 128
>>>>> (40G ports can be broken into 4x10G ports).
>>>>>
>>>> Agreed. Given that, and since dev_get_by_index_rcu uses a hash to find the
>>>> device pointer, it may actually be (much) faster (and the above "iterate
>>>> over all ports" is a bit misleading).
>>>>
>>>> I tested the above approach with DSA and a Marvell switch chip. It works,
>>>> but I am a bit concerned about the per-packet overhead, especially
>>>> in larger networks. I would prefer if there would be a means to 'catch'
>>>> duplicate packets earlier - before they are even created, if that is
>>>> possible.
>>> I'm not so concerned about the per-packet overhead.  For multicast, we
>>> have IGMP snooping.  And big switches are going to have rate controls
>>> on CPU bound traffic, so the CPU should be able to handle the
>>> per-packet overhead with ease.
>> Ok, that works for a model where you are only processing exception
>> traffic, but this may not always be the case, there are things you
>> don't/can't offload on smaller devices, such that you still want the
>> overhead to be a lightweight as possible.
> Ya, that makes sense.  Well, I'll concede this solution.  It has
> helped to draw out the requirements, so that's a positive.
indeed, thanks scott.

  reply	other threads:[~2015-03-25 17:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-03-20 16:58 [PATCH net-next RFC v2] switchdev: bridge: drop hardware forwarded packets roopa
2015-03-20 17:11 ` John Fastabend
2015-03-20 18:13   ` Scott Feldman
2015-03-20 18:30     ` John Fastabend
2015-03-20 22:06     ` roopa
2015-03-20 22:37       ` Scott Feldman
2015-03-20 23:30         ` roopa
2015-03-21  0:26           ` Scott Feldman
2015-03-21  5:53             ` roopa
2015-03-20 21:03   ` roopa
2015-03-20 21:23     ` John Fastabend
2015-03-20 22:04       ` Andrew Lunn
2015-03-20 23:12       ` roopa
2015-03-20 18:03 ` Scott Feldman
2015-03-20 21:20   ` roopa
2015-03-20 20:36 ` David Miller
2015-03-20 21:36   ` roopa
2015-03-20 22:09     ` Andrew Lunn
2015-03-20 23:43       ` Florian Fainelli
2015-03-23  0:22       ` Guenter Roeck
2015-03-23  1:33         ` John Fastabend
2015-03-23  2:57           ` Guenter Roeck
2015-03-23  3:18             ` John Fastabend
2015-03-23  3:33               ` Guenter Roeck
2015-03-23 17:12                 ` roopa
2015-03-24  5:59                   ` Scott Feldman
2015-03-24 13:13                     ` Guenter Roeck
2015-03-24 18:08                       ` Scott Feldman
2015-03-24 14:29                     ` Jiri Pirko
2015-03-24 16:01                       ` Guenter Roeck
2015-03-24 17:45                         ` roopa
2015-03-24 17:58                           ` Guenter Roeck
2015-03-24 18:14                             ` Scott Feldman
2015-03-25  3:10                               ` Guenter Roeck
2015-03-25  3:46                               ` Florian Fainelli
2015-03-25  5:06                                 ` Scott Feldman
2015-03-25 17:01                                   ` roopa [this message]
2015-03-26  7:44                                     ` Scott Feldman
2015-03-26  8:20                                       ` Jiri Pirko
2015-03-26 14:28                                         ` Scott Feldman
2015-03-26 14:49                                           ` Jiri Pirko
2015-03-27  1:08                                             ` Simon Horman
2015-03-27  6:02                                               ` Jiri Pirko
2015-03-27  6:43                                             ` Scott Feldman
2015-03-27  7:01                                               ` Jiri Pirko
2015-03-27 23:19                                                 ` Scott Feldman
2015-03-30 14:06                                       ` roopa
2015-03-24 18:48                             ` David Christensen
2015-03-24 17:58                         ` Scott Feldman
2015-03-23 17:10           ` roopa
2015-03-23 14:00         ` roopa

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