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From: Petr Machata <petrm@mellanox•com>
To: Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn•ch>
Cc: "netdev@vger•kernel.org" <netdev@vger•kernel.org>,
	Jiri Pirko <jiri@mellanox•com>,
	Ido Schimmel <idosch@mellanox•com>,
	"davem@davemloft•net" <davem@davemloft•net>,
	Tariq Toukan <tariqt@mellanox•com>,
	"jakub.kicinski@netronome•com" <jakub.kicinski@netronome•com>,
	"stephen@networkplumber•org" <stephen@networkplumber•org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH net-next 1/3] net: rtnetlink: Add link-down reason to RTNL messages
Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2019 13:47:34 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87wokwguq8.fsf@mellanox.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190318133323.GG30224@lunn.ch>


Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn•ch> writes:

> On Mon, Mar 18, 2019 at 01:15:41PM +0000, Petr Machata wrote:
>> 
>> Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn•ch> writes:
>> 
>> >> +enum rtnl_link_down_reason_major {
>> >> +	RTNL_LDR_OTHER,
>> >
>> > Does 'other' make any sense? Seem better to just not report anything
>> > at all, or add a comment that more reasons should be added at the end
>> > to reflect whatever the hardware or software can determine.
>> 
>> You still have the minor code to give you some information.
>> 
>> >> +	RTNL_LDR_NO_CABLE,
>> >> +	RTNL_LDR_UNSUPPORTED_CABLE,
>> >> +	RTNL_LDR_AUTONEG_FAILURE,
>> >> +	RTNL_LDR_NO_LINK_PARTNER,
>> >> +	RTNL_LDR_LINK_TRAINING_FAILURE,
>> >> +	RTNL_LDR_LOGICAL_MISMATCH,
>> >> +	RTNL_LDR_REMOTE_FAULT,
>> >> +	RTNL_LDR_BAD_SIGNAL_INTEGRITY,
>> >> +	RTNL_LDR_CALIBRATION_FAILURE,
>> >> +	RTNL_LDR_POWER_BUDGET_EXCEEDED,
>> >> +};
>> >
>> > What about SFP cage empty?, i.e. no SFP, SFP+ module in the cage?  An
>> 
>> No cable? Maybe the name needs to change...
>
> An SFP module, and the cable plugged into it via LC connectors, are
> physically different things. And you can also have an SFP with an RJ45
> for 1G copper. I know at higher speeds they can be inseparable, but
> this needs to be a generic API and also work with them being two
> separate things.

Understood.

>> 
>> > SFP can also report LOS. That does not appear to be any of the above.
>> > Or that the core SFP code has been unable to read the EEPROM? We have
>> 
>> My assumption was that cable with unreadable EEPROM is simply a bad
>> cable. Does the admin actually care which particular part of the cable
>> is at fault?
>
> Yes. I throw away the SFP module, because its EEPROM is broke, but
> don't need to replace the 1KM of fibre cable, or 100m of Cat 6a copper
> cable. Classic example would be fibre to the home.

OK, gotcha.

  reply	other threads:[~2019-03-18 13:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-03-15 17:56 [RFC PATCH net-next 0/3] RTNL: Add link-down reason reporting Petr Machata
2019-03-15 17:56 ` [RFC PATCH net-next 1/3] net: rtnetlink: Add link-down reason to RTNL messages Petr Machata
2019-03-16  2:26   ` Jakub Kicinski
2019-03-17  0:24     ` Michal Kubecek
2019-03-18 12:34     ` Petr Machata
2019-03-18 12:43       ` Michal Kubecek
2019-03-18 13:12       ` Andrew Lunn
2019-03-16  2:26   ` Andrew Lunn
2019-03-18 13:15     ` Petr Machata
2019-03-18 13:33       ` Andrew Lunn
2019-03-18 13:47         ` Petr Machata [this message]
2019-03-18 14:02       ` Andrew Lunn
2019-03-18 15:52         ` Stephen Hemminger
2019-03-19 10:18           ` Petr Machata
2019-03-19 11:56             ` Michal Kubecek
2019-03-19 15:42             ` Stephen Hemminger
2019-03-19 15:57               ` Petr Machata
2019-03-17 22:38   ` Roopa Prabhu
2019-03-18  0:03     ` Andrew Lunn
2019-03-28 17:59       ` Petr Machata
2019-03-28 19:51         ` Andrew Lunn
2019-04-23 13:41           ` Jiri Pirko
2019-03-18 12:15     ` Petr Machata
2019-03-15 17:56 ` [RFC PATCH net-next 2/3] mlxsw: reg: Add Port Diagnostics Database Register Petr Machata
2019-03-15 17:56 ` [RFC PATCH net-next 3/3] mlxsw: spectrum: Add rtnl_link_ops Petr Machata
2019-03-16  2:06 ` [RFC PATCH net-next 0/3] RTNL: Add link-down reason reporting Andrew Lunn
2019-03-18 12:11   ` Petr Machata

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