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From: ebiederm@xmission•com (Eric W. Biederman)
To: Kay Sievers <kay.sievers@vrfy•org>
Cc: Greg KH <greg@kroah•com>, Greg KH <gregkh@suse•de>,
	Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions•net>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation•org>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk•pl>,
	"Maciej W. Rozycki" <macro@linux-mips•org>,
	netdev <netdev@vger•kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Driver-core: Fix bluetooth network device rename  regression
Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 00:57:16 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m1ocdsox7n.fsf@fess.ebiederm.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikoLQMH5LZCgKmQivTrtvtCf8oksk-HwBQQ+Tte@mail.gmail.com> (Kay Sievers's message of "Wed\, 28 Jul 2010 07\:26\:15 +0200")

Kay Sievers <kay.sievers@vrfy•org> writes:

> Yeah, but most of these things we should have fixed over the last
> years. There is no single WAIT_FOR instruction left in udev rules. :)

Last time I looked there were quite a few attributes that were still
getting created late.  I would not be surprised if the common case
works fine, but I know of a least one and I think a couple of weird
cases that still have to do unpleasant things.

Still that is a project for another time.


>> At the subsystem level bus devices look better.
>> At the individual device level bus devices stacked on bus devices
>> appear to be a namespace disaster.
>
> They are usually created by the same code, in many cases by the same
> drivers, and have not been a real problem so far. As you said, network
> devices are special here, because of the ability to rename them from
> userspace.
>
> At some time in the future, when buses and classes are merged, I
> expect stuff can just set a flag to have a 'glue dir' created or not.
>
> For now 'glue dirs' are limited to be created between a bus and a
> class device. It could possibly be extended to be created between
> classes of different types to handle issues like this.

Sounds like a plan.  And now I'm off on vacation.

Have a good one.

Eric

  reply	other threads:[~2010-07-28  7:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <bug-16257-10286@https.bugzilla.kernel.org/>
     [not found] ` <20100621150826.762ac9f2.akpm@linux-foundation.org>
2010-06-21 22:22   ` [Bugme-new] [Bug 16257] New: sysfs changes break hwsim and bnep drivers Eric W. Biederman
2010-06-21 22:29     ` Greg KH
2010-06-21 22:55       ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-06-21 23:10         ` Greg KH
2010-06-22  0:05           ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-06-22  3:56             ` Greg KH
2010-07-08 16:31               ` [PATCH] sysfs: Don't allow the creation of symlinks we can't remove Eric W. Biederman
2010-07-08 16:37                 ` [RFC][PATCH] mac80211_hwsim: No parent is better than an illegimate one Eric W. Biederman
2010-07-12  6:46                   ` Johannes Berg
2010-07-12 14:23                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-07-12 14:29                       ` Johannes Berg
2010-07-08 21:19                 ` [PATCH] sysfs: Don't allow the creation of symlinks we can't remove Greg KH
2010-07-08 22:28                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-07-08 23:06                     ` Greg KH
2010-07-19 20:34                       ` Andrew Morton
2010-07-20 20:13                         ` Greg KH
2010-07-21  5:08                           ` [PATCH 0/2] Support untagged symlinks to tagged directories Eric W. Biederman
2010-07-21  5:10                             ` [PATCH 1/2] sysfs: sysfs_delete_link handle symlinks from untagged " Eric W. Biederman
2010-07-21  5:12                               ` [PATCH 2/2] sysfs: allow creating " Eric W. Biederman
2010-07-21 19:02                             ` [PATCH 0/2] Support untagged symlinks " Greg KH
2010-07-21 20:20                               ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-07-21 20:36                                 ` Greg KH
2010-07-22  9:16                             ` [PATCH] Driver-core: Fix bluetooth network device rename regression Eric W. Biederman
2010-07-22 13:38                               ` Kay Sievers
2010-07-22 14:10                                 ` Johannes Berg
2010-07-22 15:30                                   ` Kay Sievers
2010-07-22 17:18                                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-07-22 17:44                                   ` Kay Sievers
2010-07-22 18:20                                     ` Johannes Berg
2010-07-22 18:28                                       ` Greg KH
2010-07-22 18:36                                         ` Johannes Berg
2010-07-22 18:54                                           ` Greg KH
2010-07-23  1:31                                             ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-07-26 18:09                                               ` Greg KH
2010-07-27  9:10                                                 ` Kay Sievers
2010-07-27 13:49                                                   ` Greg KH
2010-07-27 13:59                                                     ` Johannes Berg
2010-07-27 15:09                                                       ` Greg KH
2010-07-27 15:32                                                         ` Kay Sievers
2010-07-27 18:17                                                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-07-27 18:24                                                       ` Kay Sievers
2010-07-27 18:36                                                         ` Greg KH
2010-07-27 18:44                                                           ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-07-27 18:54                                                             ` Kay Sievers
2010-07-27 20:53                                                               ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-07-28  4:41                                                                 ` Kay Sievers
2010-07-28  5:12                                                                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-07-28  5:26                                                                     ` Kay Sievers
2010-07-28  7:57                                                                       ` Eric W. Biederman [this message]
2010-07-25  5:43                                             ` [PATCH] Driver-core: Always create class directories for classses that support namespaces Eric W. Biederman
2010-07-26 18:07                                               ` Greg KH
2010-07-22 23:03                                       ` [PATCH] Driver-core: Fix bluetooth network device rename regression Kay Sievers
2010-07-10 22:30                 ` [PATCH] sysfs: Don't allow the creation of symlinks we can't remove Maciej W. Rozycki
2010-07-22  9:54                 ` Johannes Berg
2010-07-22 10:05                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-07-22 10:10                     ` Johannes Berg
2010-07-22 10:35                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-07-22 10:41                         ` Johannes Berg
2010-07-22 11:27                           ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-07-22 11:30                             ` Johannes Berg
2010-07-08 16:55               ` [Bugme-new] [Bug 16257] New: sysfs changes break hwsim and bnep drivers Eric W. Biederman

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