From: Toon Claes <toon@iotcl•com>
To: Marc Branchaud <marcnarc@xiplink•com>, git@vger•kernel.org
Cc: "Jeff King" <peff@peff•net>, "Taylor Blau" <me@ttaylorr•com>,
"Derrick Stolee" <stolee@gmail•com>,
"Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason" <avarab@gmail•com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 0/5] Introduce git-blame-tree(1) command
Date: Wed, 07 May 2025 16:22:02 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87ecx0ijqt.fsf@iotcl.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <69a10929-0e44-4ce9-af91-048b8404c752@xiplink.com>
Marc Branchaud <marcnarc@xiplink•com> writes:
> I feel the need to get some bike-shedding off my chest, though:
Always welcome!
> "blame-tree" would be a terrible name for this command.
Do you feel this way because "blame" as a negative conotation?
> I think that if Git ends up with two blame-like commands it will
> merely solidify Git's reputation for obscurity.
I think "blaming" is a well-concept in Git, and many people (familiar
with Git) would understand in instant what `blame-tree` would do.
> If this is really a form of blaming, then just make it an extension of
> "git blame", like maybe "git blame --latest".
I'm afraid that won't work very well, because the code is very much
different. If naming is the only motivation to shoehorn this in, then I
think it's better to rethink the name?
> Otherwise, please come up with a new command name. "git latest"? "git
> "latest-revs"? As long as it doesn't use the word "blame"...
I've been thinking about this a lot more, but I failed to come up with a
better name.
> FYI, here's Peff's original explanation[1] of how he came up with the name:
>
> > I wasn't sure at first what to call it or what the calling conventions
> > should be. The initial thought was to make it part of "ls-tree". But
> > that feels wrong, as ls-tree otherwise never cares about traversal.
> > The combination of traversal and diff made me think of blame, and
> > indeed, I think this is really just about blaming a whole tree at the
> > file-level, rather than at the content-level. Thus I called it blame-
> > tree, and I used the same calling conventions as blame:
> > "git blame-tree <path> <rev opts>".
>
> To me that reads like an argument for folding this into "git blame".
Forgive me, but I think folding into git-blame(1) will also solidify
Git's reputation of obscurity.
I think `blame-tree` is a fine name for this feature, but in the end I
don't care too much about the exact name. If we end up naming it `git
last-for-each`, `git annonate-files`, `git log-everyone`, or `git
when-modified` ... It's all good for me.
> [1]
> https://lore.kernel.org/git/20110302164031.GA18233@sigill.intra.peff.net/
--
Toon
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2025-04-22 17:46 [PATCH RFC 0/5] Introduce git-blame-tree(1) command Toon Claes
2025-04-22 17:46 ` [PATCH RFC 1/5] blame-tree: introduce new subcommand to blame files Toon Claes
2025-04-24 16:19 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-05-07 13:13 ` Toon Claes
2025-04-22 17:46 ` [PATCH RFC 2/5] t/perf: add blame-tree perf script Toon Claes
2025-04-22 17:46 ` [PATCH RFC 3/5] blame-tree: use Bloom filters when available Toon Claes
2025-04-22 17:46 ` [PATCH RFC 4/5] blame-tree: implement faster algorithm Toon Claes
2025-04-22 17:46 ` [PATCH RFC 5/5] blame-tree.c: initialize revision machinery without walk Toon Claes
2025-04-23 13:26 ` [PATCH RFC 0/5] Introduce git-blame-tree(1) command Marc Branchaud
2025-05-07 14:22 ` Toon Claes [this message]
2025-05-07 20:23 ` Marc Branchaud
2025-05-07 20:45 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-05-08 13:26 ` Marc Branchaud
2025-05-08 14:26 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-05-08 15:12 ` Marc Branchaud
2025-05-14 14:42 ` Toon Claes
2025-05-14 19:29 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-05-14 21:15 ` Marc Branchaud
2025-05-15 13:29 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-15 16:39 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-05-15 17:39 ` Marc Branchaud
2025-05-15 19:30 ` Jeff King
2025-05-16 4:38 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-20 8:49 ` Toon Claes
2025-05-15 17:30 ` Marc Branchaud
2025-05-16 4:30 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-14 21:15 ` Marc Branchaud
2025-05-07 20:49 ` Kristoffer Haugsbakk
2025-05-08 13:20 ` D. Ben Knoble
2025-05-08 13:26 ` Marc Branchaud
2025-05-08 13:18 ` D. Ben Knoble
2025-05-23 9:33 ` [PATCH RFC v2 0/5] Introduce git-last-modified(1) command Toon Claes
2025-05-23 9:33 ` [PATCH RFC v2 1/5] last-modified: new subcommand to show when files were last modified Toon Claes
2025-05-25 20:07 ` Justin Tobler
2025-06-05 8:32 ` Toon Claes
2025-05-27 10:39 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-06-13 9:34 ` Toon Claes
2025-06-13 9:52 ` Kristoffer Haugsbakk
2025-05-23 9:33 ` [PATCH RFC v2 2/5] t/perf: add last-modified perf script Toon Claes
2025-05-23 9:33 ` [PATCH RFC v2 3/5] last-modified: use Bloom filters when available Toon Claes
2025-05-27 10:40 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-06-13 11:05 ` Toon Claes
2025-05-23 9:33 ` [PATCH RFC v2 4/5] last-modified: implement faster algorithm Toon Claes
2025-05-27 10:39 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-23 9:33 ` [PATCH RFC v2 5/5] last-modified: initialize revision machinery without walk Toon Claes
2025-05-27 10:39 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-07-01 20:35 ` [PATCH RFC v2 0/5] Introduce git-last-modified(1) command Kristoffer Haugsbakk
2025-07-01 21:06 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-07-01 21:30 ` Kristoffer Haugsbakk
2025-07-02 13:00 ` Toon Claes
2025-07-09 15:53 ` Toon Claes
2025-07-09 17:00 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-06-30 18:49 ` [PATCH RFC v3 0/3] " Toon Claes
2025-06-30 18:49 ` [PATCH RFC v3 1/3] last-modified: new subcommand to show when files were last modified Toon Claes
2025-07-01 20:20 ` Kristoffer Haugsbakk
2025-07-02 11:51 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-06-30 18:49 ` [PATCH RFC v3 2/3] t/perf: add last-modified perf script Toon Claes
2025-06-30 18:49 ` [PATCH RFC v3 3/3] last-modified: use Bloom filters when available Toon Claes
2025-07-01 23:01 ` [PATCH RFC v3 0/3] Introduce git-last-modified(1) command Junio C Hamano
2025-07-09 15:26 ` [PATCH v4 " Toon Claes
2025-07-09 21:57 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-07-10 18:37 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-07-16 13:32 ` [PATCH v5 0/6] " Toon Claes
2025-07-16 13:35 ` [PATCH v5 1/6] last-modified: new subcommand to show when files were last modified Toon Claes
2025-07-18 0:02 ` Taylor Blau
2025-07-19 6:44 ` Jeff King
2025-07-22 15:50 ` Toon Claes
2025-08-01 9:09 ` Christian Couder
2025-08-01 16:59 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-07-16 13:35 ` [PATCH v5 2/6] t/perf: add last-modified perf script Toon Claes
2025-07-18 0:08 ` Taylor Blau
2025-07-22 15:52 ` Toon Claes
2025-07-16 13:35 ` [PATCH v5 3/6] last-modified: use Bloom filters when available Toon Claes
2025-07-18 0:16 ` Taylor Blau
2025-07-22 16:02 ` Toon Claes
2025-07-16 13:35 ` [PATCH v5 4/6] pretty: allow caller to disable indentation Toon Claes
2025-07-16 15:50 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-07-17 16:31 ` Toon Claes
2025-07-16 13:35 ` [PATCH v5 5/6] last-modified: support --extended format Toon Claes
2025-07-16 16:09 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-07-17 16:31 ` Toon Claes
2025-07-17 22:37 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-07-18 17:36 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-07-22 16:06 ` Toon Claes
2025-07-16 13:42 ` [PATCH v5 6/6] fixup! last-modified: use Bloom filters when available Toon Claes
2025-07-17 23:39 ` [PATCH v5 0/6] Introduce git-last-modified(1) command Taylor Blau
2025-07-22 15:35 ` Toon Claes
2025-07-30 17:59 ` Toon Claes
2025-07-31 7:45 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-07-30 17:55 ` [PATCH v6 0/4] " Toon Claes
2025-07-31 18:40 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-07-31 23:57 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-08-05 9:33 ` [PATCH v7 0/3] " Toon Claes
2025-08-05 14:34 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-05 16:21 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-08-05 16:34 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-08-05 16:55 ` Toon Claes
2025-08-05 17:20 ` Jean-Noël AVILA
2025-08-05 21:46 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-08-06 12:01 ` Toon Claes
2025-08-06 15:38 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-08-28 22:44 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-08-05 18:28 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-08-05 9:33 ` [PATCH v7 1/3] last-modified: new subcommand to show when files were last modified Toon Claes
2025-08-05 9:33 ` [PATCH v7 2/3] t/perf: add last-modified perf script Toon Claes
2025-08-05 9:33 ` [PATCH v7 3/3] last-modified: use Bloom filters when available Toon Claes
2025-07-30 17:55 ` [PATCH v6 1/4] last-modified: new subcommand to show when files were last modified Toon Claes
2025-07-31 6:42 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-01 16:22 ` Toon Claes
2025-08-01 17:09 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-08-04 6:34 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-04 17:14 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-08-05 5:35 ` Toon Claes
2025-08-01 20:34 ` Jean-Noël AVILA
2025-08-05 5:36 ` Toon Claes
2025-08-04 6:33 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-01 10:18 ` Christian Couder
2025-08-01 10:22 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-01 17:06 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-08-02 8:18 ` Christian Couder
2025-08-02 11:31 ` Christian Couder
2025-08-02 13:38 ` Christian Couder
2025-08-02 16:26 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-08-04 6:35 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-07-30 17:55 ` [PATCH v6 2/4] t/perf: add last-modified perf script Toon Claes
2025-07-30 17:55 ` [PATCH v6 3/4] commit-graph: export prepare_commit_graph() Toon Claes
2025-07-31 6:42 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-07-30 17:55 ` [PATCH v6 4/4] last-modified: use Bloom filters when available Toon Claes
2025-07-31 6:43 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-01 16:23 ` Toon Claes
2025-08-04 6:33 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-07-09 15:26 ` [PATCH v4 1/3] last-modified: new subcommand to show when files were last modified Toon Claes
2025-07-09 15:26 ` [PATCH v4 2/3] t/perf: add last-modified perf script Toon Claes
2025-07-09 15:26 ` [PATCH v4 3/3] last-modified: use Bloom filters when available Toon Claes
2025-07-16 13:35 ` [PATCH v5 6/6] fixup! " Toon Claes
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