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From: David Kastrup <dak@gnu•org>
To: Jeff King <peff@peff•net>
Cc: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox•com>,
	d9ba@mailtor•net, git@vger•kernel.org
Subject: Re: Harmful LESS flags
Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2014 23:48:30 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87lhuu9z69.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140424213529.GB7815@sigill.intra.peff.net> (Jeff King's message of "Thu, 24 Apr 2014 17:35:29 -0400")

Jeff King <peff@peff•net> writes:

> On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 12:29:21PM -0700, Junio C Hamano wrote:
>
>> David Kastrup <dak@gnu•org> writes:
>> 
>> > Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox•com> writes:
>> >
>> >> Traditionally, because the tool grew in a context of being used in a
>> >> project whose participants are at least not malicious, always having
>> >> to be on the lookout for fear of middle-of-line tabs hiding bad
>> >> contents near the right edges of lines has never been an issue.
>> >
>> > My beef is not with "hiding bad contents" but with "hiding contents".
>> > It makes the output useless for seeing what is actually happening as
>> > soon as the option starts having an effect.
>> 
>> My suspicion is that one of the reasons why S was chosen to be in
>> the default was to mildly discourage people from busting the usual
>> line-length limit, but I am not Linus ;-)
>
> I would think it's the opposite. Long lines look _horrible_ without
> "-S", as they get wrapped at awkward points. Using "-S" means that long
> lines don't bug you, unless you really want to scroll over and see the
> content.

I prefer horrible over useless.

> I really think the right solution here is to teach less to make it more
> obvious that there is something worth scrolling over to. Here's a very
> rough patch for less, if you want to see what I'm thinking of.

Still useless.  I'm not actually interested in a more prominent "I could
be useful" indicator.

-- 
David Kastrup

  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-04-24 22:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-04-23 23:46 Harmful LESS flags d9ba
2014-04-24  0:11 ` Jonathan Nieder
2014-04-28 21:38   ` Mark Nudelman
2014-04-24  5:06 ` David Kastrup
2014-04-24 19:02   ` Junio C Hamano
2014-04-24 19:21     ` David Kastrup
2014-04-24 19:29       ` Junio C Hamano
2014-04-24 19:50         ` David Kastrup
2014-04-24 21:35         ` Jeff King
2014-04-24 21:47           ` Junio C Hamano
2014-04-24 22:02             ` Jeff King
2014-04-24 21:48           ` David Kastrup [this message]
2014-04-24 22:13             ` Jeff King
2014-04-24 22:44               ` David Kastrup
2014-04-24 23:08                 ` Jonathan Nieder
2014-04-25  6:56     ` Matthieu Moy
2014-04-25 15:11       ` Jonathan Nieder
2014-04-25 15:32         ` David Kastrup
2014-04-25 15:47           ` Jonathan Nieder
2014-04-28  8:34             ` [PATCH] PAGER_ENV: remove 'S' from $LESS by default Matthieu Moy
2014-04-28  8:43               ` David Kastrup
2014-04-28  8:59                 ` Matthieu Moy
2014-04-28  9:14                   ` David Kastrup
2014-04-28 12:22                     ` Matthieu Moy
2014-04-28 16:24                       ` Jeff King
2014-04-28 18:48                         ` Junio C Hamano
2014-04-29 12:29                           ` Matthieu Moy
2014-04-29 17:01                             ` Junio C Hamano
2014-04-30  7:35                               ` [PATCH v2] pager: " Matthieu Moy
2014-04-30 15:38                                 ` Junio C Hamano
2014-04-30 15:49                                   ` Matthieu Moy
2014-04-30 17:34                                     ` Junio C Hamano
2014-05-05 18:44                                 ` Jonathan Nieder
2014-05-05 20:10                                   ` Matthieu Moy
2014-05-06 17:34                                     ` Junio C Hamano
2014-05-06 18:00                                       ` David Kastrup
2014-05-06 18:49                                         ` Matthieu Moy
2014-05-06 21:55                                           ` Jeff King
2014-05-07 17:07                                             ` Junio C Hamano
2014-05-07 17:54                                               ` Matthieu Moy
2014-05-07 20:42                                                 ` Junio C Hamano

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