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From: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox•com>
To: "brian m. carlson" <sandals@crustytoothpaste•net>
Cc: "Phillip Wood" <phillip.wood@dunelm•org.uk>,
	git@vger•kernel.org, "René Scharfe" <l.s.r@web•de>,
	"Elijah Newren" <newren@gmail•com>,
	"Eric Sunshine" <sunshine@sunshineco•com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/3] C99: declare bool experiment a success
Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2025 15:09:09 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <xmqqikjtf6nu.fsf@gitster.g> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aHbMlUKNL2CAK_9I@fruit.crustytoothpaste.net> (brian m. carlson's message of "Tue, 15 Jul 2025 21:48:05 +0000")

"brian m. carlson" <sandals@crustytoothpaste•net> writes:

> This series looked good to me.  I especially like the fact that we've
> made it easier for me to figure out whether starts_with and friends are
> booleans (that is, true if it starts with the value) or our standard
> zero/negative-one (that is, false if it starts with the value).

Hmph, this is a tangent, I've never thought of it that way.

The "0 is success and negative is failure" is exactly about success
and failure.  We expect such a call to succeed most of the time and
failure is a note-worthy event.

Functions like starts_with() and friends, those that Lispers might
name with q suffix, are quite different.  A predicate is asking "is
it, or isn't it?" question and returning "false" from it does not
imply a failure in any way.

I wouldn't dream of making them return -1 for "failure", because
starts_with(buf.buf, "#") that finds buf.buf does not begin with "#"
is no way failing.

Anyway, we may start rewriting our old-fashioned idiom to normalize
a "true if non-zero" integers, i.e.

	return !!some_true_if_non_zero_integer_variable;

into 

	return (bool)some_true_if_non_zero_integer_variable;

perhaps ;-).

  reply	other threads:[~2025-07-15 22:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-07-14 13:26 [PATCH 0/3] C99: declare bool experiment a success Phillip Wood
2025-07-14 13:27 ` [PATCH 1/3] CodingGuildlines: allow the use of bool Phillip Wood
2025-07-14 16:37   ` Junio C Hamano
2025-07-14 13:27 ` [PATCH 2/3] git-compat-util: convert string predicates to return bool Phillip Wood
2025-07-14 16:46   ` Eric Sunshine
2025-07-14 17:20   ` Elijah Newren
2025-07-14 21:14     ` brian m. carlson
2025-07-15  9:36       ` Phillip Wood
2025-07-14 13:27 ` [PATCH 3/3] strbuf: convert " Phillip Wood
2025-07-15 13:52 ` [PATCH v2 0/3] C99: declare bool experiment a success Phillip Wood
2025-07-15 13:52   ` [PATCH v2 1/3] CodingGuildlines: allow the use of bool Phillip Wood
2025-07-16  4:38     ` Jeff King
2025-07-16  4:46       ` Jeff King
2025-07-16  5:06         ` Elijah Newren
2025-07-15 13:52   ` [PATCH v2 2/3] git-compat-util: convert string predicates to return bool Phillip Wood
2025-07-15 13:52   ` [PATCH v2 3/3] strbuf: convert " Phillip Wood
2025-07-15 17:19   ` [PATCH v2 0/3] C99: declare bool experiment a success Elijah Newren
2025-07-15 18:23     ` rsbecker
2025-07-15 19:35       ` Elijah Newren
2025-07-15 20:47         ` rsbecker
2025-07-15 21:06       ` Junio C Hamano
2025-07-15 18:53     ` Junio C Hamano
2025-07-15 21:48   ` brian m. carlson
2025-07-15 22:09     ` Junio C Hamano [this message]
2025-07-16  9:38 ` [PATCH v3 " Phillip Wood
2025-07-16  9:38   ` [PATCH v3 1/3] CodingGuidelines: allow the use of bool Phillip Wood
2025-07-16  9:38   ` [PATCH v3 2/3] git-compat-util: convert string predicates to return bool Phillip Wood
2025-07-16 10:26     ` Karthik Nayak
2025-07-16  9:38   ` [PATCH v3 3/3] strbuf: convert " Phillip Wood
2025-07-16 10:28     ` Karthik Nayak
2025-07-16 10:29   ` [PATCH v3 0/3] C99: declare bool experiment a success Karthik Nayak
2025-07-17 15:21     ` Phillip Wood
2025-07-22  8:09       ` Karthik Nayak

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