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From: Sergei Shtylyov <sshtylyov@ru•mvista.com>
To: Grant Likely <grant.likely@secretlab•ca>
Cc: linuxppc-dev@ozlabs•org, John Linn <john.linn@xilinx•com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/3] [POWERPC] Xilinx: of_serial support for Xilinx uart 16550.
Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2008 19:40:01 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <47E53661.9010508@ru.mvista.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <fa686aa40803220806w3288ab8ew754404a5aee152cf@mail.gmail.com>

Grant Likely wrote:

>> > Personally, I'm not fond of this approach.  There is already some
>> > traction to using the reg-shift property to specify spacing, and I
>> > think it would be appropriate to also define a reg-offset property to
>> > handle the +3 offset and then let the xilinx 16550 nodes use those.

>>    That's making things only worse than the mere "reg-shift" idea. I think
>> that both are totally wrong. Everything about the programming interface should
>> be said in the "compatible" and possibly "model" properties. of_serial driver
>> should recognize them and pass the necessary details to 8250.c. As for me, I'm
>> strongly against plaguing the device tree with the *Linux driver
>> implementation specifics* (despite I was trying this with MTD -- there it
>> seemed somewhat more grounded :-).

> Not true.  Compatible defines what the node is describing.  It is
> perfectly valid for a compatible value definition to also defines some
> additional properties that can be queried for interface details.
> Xilinx is completely free to define a "xlnx,..." compatible value for
> their ns16550 compatible device.  However, 'sparse' ns16550 devices
> are a common and well known variation so I think it is valid and
> reasonable to define a compatible binding for this case.

    We have been mostly talking about the 16550-compatible devices which 
external circuitry makes "sparse" so far. This is surely not a property of a 
16550 device to be "sparse" or not, although some say that this doesn't 
matter. :-)

> As for using a new binding like "sparse16550" instead of extending

    That "sparse16550" again... what if it's a superset of 16550 (not an 
uncommon case too), will you also define "sparce16650", "sparse16570", and so 
on? :-)

> "ns16550"; it is because reg-shift and reg-offset would be required
> nodes and therefore is not compatible with drivers using the original
> ns16550 binding.  Using a new namespace gives freedom to define the
> required properties.

    You'll have to define several namespaces I'm afraid...

> Cheers,
> g.

WBR, Sergei

  reply	other threads:[~2008-03-22 16:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <12060242324116-git-send-email-john.linn@xilinx.com>
2008-03-20 14:43 ` [PATCH 2/3] [POWERPC] Xilinx: of_serial support for Xilinx uart 16550 John Linn
2008-03-21  0:19   ` Grant Likely
2008-03-21  9:21     ` Paul Mackerras
2008-03-21 11:39       ` Segher Boessenkool
2008-03-21 16:08         ` [PATCH 2/3] [POWERPC] Xilinx: of_serial support for Xilinx uart16550 Stephen Neuendorffer
2008-03-21 16:48           ` Segher Boessenkool
2008-03-22 14:50       ` [PATCH 2/3] [POWERPC] Xilinx: of_serial support for Xilinx uart 16550 Grant Likely
2008-03-22 16:06         ` Sergei Shtylyov
2008-03-24 14:09         ` Sergei Shtylyov
2008-03-24 14:27           ` Grant Likely
2008-03-24 16:15             ` Sergei Shtylyov
2008-03-24 16:48               ` Grant Likely
2008-03-24 17:03               ` Sergei Shtylyov
2008-03-25 22:48                 ` John Linn
2008-03-21 13:00     ` Sergei Shtylyov
2008-03-21 15:37       ` Segher Boessenkool
2008-03-21 15:54         ` Sergei Shtylyov
2008-03-21 16:45           ` Segher Boessenkool
2008-03-21 16:50             ` [PATCH 2/3] [POWERPC] Xilinx: of_serial support for Xilinx uart16550 Stephen Neuendorffer
2008-03-21 17:01             ` [PATCH 2/3] [POWERPC] Xilinx: of_serial support for Xilinx uart 16550 Sergei Shtylyov
2008-03-22 15:06       ` Grant Likely
2008-03-22 16:40         ` Sergei Shtylyov [this message]
2008-03-21 16:14     ` [PATCH 2/3] [POWERPC] Xilinx: of_serial support for Xilinx uart16550 Stephen Neuendorffer
     [not found] ` <1206024232655-git-send-email-john.linn@xilinx.com>
2008-03-20 14:43   ` [PATCH 3/3] [POWERPC] Xilinx: boot support for Xilinx uart 16550 John Linn
2008-03-20 14:54     ` Grant Likely
2008-03-20 16:15       ` John Linn
2008-03-20 21:18         ` Grant Likely
     [not found]       ` <20080320175601.5D86217C8055@mail127-sin.bigfish.com>
2008-03-20 21:07         ` Grant Likely
2008-03-20 22:04     ` Grant Likely

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