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From: Demi Marie Obenour <demiobenour@gmail•com>
To: Dmitry Baryshkov <dmitry.baryshkov@oss•qualcomm.com>
Cc: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor•apana.org.au>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft•net>,
	Thara Gopinath <thara.gopinath@gmail•com>,
	Rob Herring <robh@kernel•org>,
	Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk+dt@kernel•org>,
	Conor Dooley <conor+dt@kernel•org>,
	Bjorn Andersson <andersson@kernel•org>,
	Konrad Dybcio <konradybcio@kernel•org>,
	Russell King <linux@armlinux•org.uk>,
	linux-kernel@vger•kernel.org, linux-crypto@vger•kernel.org,
	linux-arm-msm@vger•kernel.org, Eric Biggers <ebiggers@kernel•org>,
	Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@kernel•org>,
	devicetree@vger•kernel.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists•infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] crypto: Delete Qualcomm crypto engine driver
Date: Sun, 24 May 2026 16:12:55 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <66317f6a-645e-432b-ae11-8f40569d4117@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7rgfuvv3hai7g4wt4accbkejtzdt5dnb6mkj6x7ox5sz35q4n2@h7j6rr7extuj>


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On 5/24/26 12:42, Dmitry Baryshkov wrote:
> On Sat, May 23, 2026 at 03:03:56PM -0400, Demi Marie Obenour via B4 Relay wrote:
>> From: Demi Marie Obenour <demiobenour@gmail•com>
>>
>> It's slower than the generic C code and causes problems.
> 
> Which problems?

See https://lore.kernel.org/all/20260522024912.GC5937@quark/.

Also, if there are no systems in which the QCE driver is actually
the highest priority, then unless someone adjusts priorities manually
it's unused code.

> Also in the security world faster and safer are two orthogonal axis with
> very limited correlation.

If by "safer" you mean protection against physical side-channel
attacks, then my understanding is that all operations on secret keys
need to be masked.  This includes copying and storage.

Linux only supports this for protected keys, and even then sometimes
uses the kernel's own RNG for key generation.  There is no support
for using the QCE for protected keys.

Linux does support using hardware-wrapped keys with inline crypto
engines, which are what are actually used on Android.
-- 
Sincerely,
Demi Marie Obenour (she/her/hers)

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  reply	other threads:[~2026-05-24 20:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-05-23 19:03 [PATCH 0/2] Delete the Qualcomm crypto engine Demi Marie Obenour via B4 Relay
2026-05-23 19:03 ` [PATCH 2/2] devicetree: Mark QCE bindings as deprecated Demi Marie Obenour via B4 Relay
     [not found] ` <20260523-delete-qce-v1-1-86105cd7f406@gmail.com>
2026-05-24 16:42   ` [PATCH 1/2] crypto: Delete Qualcomm crypto engine driver Dmitry Baryshkov
2026-05-24 20:12     ` Demi Marie Obenour [this message]
2026-05-24 20:29       ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-05-24 20:31         ` Demi Marie Obenour
2026-05-24 20:45         ` Eric Biggers
2026-05-25  6:29           ` Kuldeep Singh
2026-05-25  7:49             ` Demi Marie Obenour
2026-05-25  8:11             ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2026-05-25 11:10               ` Kuldeep Singh
2026-05-30 10:48           ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-05-24 20:24   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski

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